AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[PaulWinch again]

Please just fuck off Alex, virtually noone wants you here. Just leave. If Lerner keeps him it's one of the biggest mistakes he could make.

I've heard from a friend who has a source close to the club that he'll be gone by Monday I hope to god it's true

It's what I'm desperately clinging on to. He has to be gone for this club to move forward, or we will continue in a downward spiral.

[Risso]

You have total choice about how you judge a purchase.  You can either spread the cost over the course if it's expected lifetime usage, or you can take the hit.  Under Doug we valued players over the length of the initial contract, from what I can make out the announced accounts took the full hit for the costs of Bent and Makoun up front, that's a big difference in losses but means we aren't carrying those losses forward into the FFP era.  We may have finished the costs of other players as well, that's pretty much the only way the accounts make sense around a 54m loss.

No you absolutely, 100% can't.  Wages are recognised when they are paid, and the cost of a purchase of a player is spread (ie amortised) over the term of the contract.  That's the standard UK GAAP compliant accounting procedure, that's the accounting policy in the accounts, and that's the policy by which PwC have audited the accounts.  Where do you even get nonsense like that from?

[not3bad]

Well, we won't know until Monday, although undoubtedly there will be endless "he said" "she said" style rumours to get people into a state before then.

[Concrete John]

Please just fuck off Alex, virtually noone wants you here. Just leave. If Lerner keeps him it's one of the biggest mistakes he could make.

I've heard from a friend who has a source close to the club that he'll be gone by Monday I hope to god it's true

It's what I'm desperately clinging on to. He has to be gone for this club to move forward, or we will continue in a downward spiral.

I have no insider knowledge on this, but I do think he will go.

My only concern is that it's done quickly.  Not in the 'I can't wait to see the back of him' way, but just so we have as much time as possible to get a new man in and then give him time to judge our squad and strengthen it as he feels necessary.

Plus, H&V will be a nightmare until he does go!

[pauliewalnuts]

I have no insider knowledge on this, but I do think he will go.

My only concern is that it's done quickly.  Not in the 'I can't wait to see the back of him' way, but just so we have as much time as possible to get a new man in and then give him time to judge our squad and strengthen it as he feels necessary.

Absolutely agree. If he's going, then do it ASAP, we can't afford to piss about for a couple of weeks and then do it, before starting to find a new boss.

There is too much work to do, the squad will be smaller than it was last season as more players have reached the end of their contracts.

We need to get the new bloke and his team in as soon as possible.

[ozzjim]

Spot on. We have about six players needed minimum this summer so a new man needs time.

[Concrete John]

I would be a little unseemly to do it after the final whistle on Sunday or anything like that, but I'd hope the deed would be done sometime during next week.

I think 6 players is probably the maximum we can safely integrate at any one time, but such discussions should be on hold until a) we have a new manager and b) he's had a chance to evaluate what he's already got. 

[PaulWinch again]

I have no insider knowledge on this, but I do think he will go.

My only concern is that it's done quickly.  Not in the 'I can't wait to see the back of him' way, but just so we have as much time as possible to get a new man in and then give him time to judge our squad and strengthen it as he feels necessary.

Absolutely agree. If he's going, then do it ASAP, we can't afford to piss about for a couple of weeks and then do it, before starting to find a new boss.

There is too much work to do, the squad will be smaller than it was last season as more players have reached the end of their contracts.

We need to get the new bloke and his team in as soon as possible.

Completely agree haste is extremely important to ensure adequate prepartions are made for next season. It's critical we don't completely fuck up trying to find a manager this time as well. Hopefully potential targets have been sounded out already, I've had enough of this being honourable stuff. It is causing us nothing but grief.

[N'ZMAV]

I can't see how he can stay, once a manager loses the fans, he ususally ends up going...

[Concrete John]

I can't see how he can stay, once a manager loses the fans, he ususally ends up going...

Exactly.

After the Bolton game I came to the conclusion that his position was completely untennable.  And wouldn't be surprised if Randy did, too!

A football club works best whe the fans, players, manager and board share a common vision of how to move forward.  We will now never have that under Mcleish as he's lost the fans and I believe a decent chunk of the players also.  So a new manager is required that can unite the other elements and we gain some forward momentum again.

[Brian Taylor]

I can't see how he can stay, once a manager loses the fans, he ususally ends up going...
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Almost feel sorry for the poor barsteward..almost!

[andyh]

I can't see how he can stay, once a manager loses the fans, he ususally ends up going...

Exactly.

After the Bolton game I came to the conclusion that his position was completely untennable.  And wouldn't be surprised if Randy did, too!

A football club works best whe the fans, players, manager and board share a common vision of how to move forward.  We will now never have that under Mcleish as he's lost the fans and I believe a decent chunk of the players also.  So a new manager is required that can unite the other elements and we gain some forward momentum again.

This in bucketloads.

Can you send this to Randy please.

[N'ZMAV]

I can't see how he can stay, once a manager loses the fans, he ususally ends up going...

Exactly.

After the Bolton game I came to the conclusion that his position was completely untennable.  And wouldn't be surprised if Randy did, too!

A football club works best whe the fans, players, manager and board share a common vision of how to move forward.  We will now never have that under Mcleish as he's lost the fans and I believe a decent chunk of the players also.  So a new manager is required that can unite the other elements and we gain some forward momentum again.

I thought all season that he would see out the 3 years, as I didn't actually expect us to get this bad. I thoguht we'd finish bottom half, maybe 11th?... but, as soon as the second goal went in against Bolton, that was the straw that broke every camals back.

[andyh]

I've yet to read a better summation of the McLeish season than this.


http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/1067003/hubbard:-alex-mcleish-sets-standard-of-mediocrity-at-aston-villa?cc=5739

[dicedlam]

I have no insider knowledge on this, but I do think he will go.

My only concern is that it's done quickly.  Not in the 'I can't wait to see the back of him' way, but just so we have as much time as possible to get a new man in and then give him time to judge our squad and strengthen it as he feels necessary.

Absolutely agree. If he's going, then do it ASAP, we can't afford to piss about for a couple of weeks and then do it, before starting to find a new boss.

There is too much work to do, the squad will be smaller than it was last season as more players have reached the end of their contracts.

We need to get the new bloke and his team in as soon as possible.

Majority of the players will be on a beach this time next week, how is a new manager going to assess the players then?
The only thing I can think of if they were to get a new manager would be the evaluation and recommendations of KMc and Sid.

I dont know..I just have a gut feeling the bloke is going knowhere.