AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[The Situation]

Newcastle were also relegated with 7 wins.

[Moorski]

We got lucky this time just like Wolves & Blackburn did last season,Where are they now?

[Risso]

I think maybe Randy was impressed with his league cup win and possibly thought he'd do much better with a supposedly superior Villa squad.

He was largely unblamed for the first relegation when he came in mid season and had no money to spend.  After that he got them up, had their highest ever PL position and won a trophy.  I think it's that record Randy was paying most attention to.

All well and good and if we had got him then things may have been different.  But a few months later they go down again, which brings the first relegation back to mind and raises a serious question.  Randy either didn't ask himself this question, or did and decided there were mitigating circumstances and felt he was actually the promotion/9th place/Cup win manager.

If so, he was wrong.

He took over when Blues had played 14 games, and signed Zarate and McFadden in the January.  Then as in last season, with five games left he had a healthy points gap of 4 and a much better goal difference, but still went down.  Just like he did last season, and just like he came very close to doing this season.  The man is just utterly inept.

[Moorski]

Inept? He aint that good

[pauliewalnuts]

I think maybe Randy was impressed with his league cup win and possibly thought he'd do much better with a supposedly superior Villa squad.

He was largely unblamed for the first relegation when he came in mid season and had no money to spend.  After that he got them up, had their highest ever PL position and won a trophy.  I think it's that record Randy was paying most attention to.

All well and good and if we had got him then things may have been different.  But a few months later they go down again, which brings the first relegation back to mind and raises a serious question.  Randy either didn't ask himself this question, or did and decided there were mitigating circumstances and felt he was actually the promotion/9th place/Cup win manager.

If so, he was wrong.

He took over when Blues had played 14 games, and signed Zarate and McFadden in the January.  Then as in last season, with five games left he had a healthy points gap of 4 and a much better goal difference, but still went down.  Just like he did last season, and just like he came very close to doing this season.  The man is just utterly inept.

He went down doing pretty much exactly what he has done this season.

Plenty of us didn't give a shit he managed them, but were bothered he stank of relegation. In fact, when he was appointed, most of us probably still had residual side-ache from laughing at his last relegation. That's why lots of people expressed their concern that he'd play horribly negative, rubbish football of the style Blues played under him, and lo and behold that is *exactly* what he did.

He came here and did the absolute worst thing he could do, the one thing that would lose him the support he had.

Is there even a single person on this site who actually wants the bloke to be given more time? Who would choose to have him stay around?

[Risso]

If/when he does get the sack, all of the shite about him not being given a chance will resurface for weeks.   In a way it'd almost be good if we could nick Hughton and then give him a rapturous reception.  All of the bone idle hacks and MOTD idiots would spontaneously combust like Richard Dawkins having a visit from the Virgin Mary.

[KevinGage]

I think maybe Randy was impressed with his league cup win and possibly thought he'd do much better with a supposedly superior Villa squad.

He was largely unblamed for the first relegation when he came in mid season and had no money to spend.  After that he got them up, had their highest ever PL position and won a trophy.  I think it's that record Randy was paying most attention to.

All well and good and if we had got him then things may have been different.  But a few months later they go down again, which brings the first relegation back to mind and raises a serious question.  Randy either didn't ask himself this question, or did and decided there were mitigating circumstances and felt he was actually the promotion/9th place/Cup win manager.

If so, he was wrong.

He took over when Blues had played 14 games, and signed Zarate and McFadden in the January.  Then as in last season, with five games left he had a healthy points gap of 4 and a much better goal difference, but still went down.  Just like he did last season, and just like he came very close to doing this season.  The man is just utterly inept.

He went down doing pretty much exactly what he has done this season.

Plenty of us didn't give a shit he managed them, but were bothered he stank of relegation. In fact, when he was appointed, most of us probably still had residual side-ache from laughing at his last relegation. That's why lots of people expressed their concern that he'd play horribly negative, rubbish football of the style Blues played under him, and lo and behold that is *exactly* what he did.

He came here and did the absolute worst thing he could do, the one thing that would lose him the support he had.

Is there even a single person on this site who actually wants the bloke to be given more time? Who would choose to have him stay around?

I think there might be at least one.

[dave.woodhall]

As will be said on TV later tonight, if he stays he has to be given big money immediately and use it well. It's doubtful that either would happen.

[The Situation]

Dave if you're on television some time soon on behalf of Villa fans can you point out stats of this season?

Lowest amount of home wins since 1890 (when we only played 12 games) - New record.

Lowest points tally in our Premier league history.

Record amount of draws in a premier league season by any team - equalled our own record which we could beat with one game to play.

Highest amount of points dropped from winning positions 22 points in total.

Third worst goalscorers in the league.
 
Joint second worst home record.

Worst average home attendances.

As many goals scored as Blues last season.

We need to tell the media how it is and what the reality of this season has been so we don't have muppets like Shearer spouting bullshit.

Oh and I don't know if it will get through to outsiders but just mention the fact its NOT where McLeish came from which is the problem its what he's doing to our team.

[dave.woodhall]

I'm not on behalf of anyone but myself.

[Californian Villain]

....Worst average home attendances.....

Is this actually true? (No argument with the other points).

[James]

....Worst average home attendances.....

Is this actually true? (No argument with the other points).

For a decade or so I believe, yes. There are some stats on here somewhere.

[The Situation]

I'm not on behalf of anyone but myself.

Ok fair enough but it would help get the message out if you mention those stats and tell it how it really is. Hopefully cold hard facts hit home.

[PeterWithesShin]

....Worst average home attendances.....

Is this actually true? (No argument with the other points).

Nope.

[Legion]

I'm not on behalf of anyone but myself.

What time and which channel?