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Offline old man villa fan

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #5775 on: May 06, 2012, 07:25:22 PM »
I know talk is cheap in football but with Faulkner stating that Europe was the target at the start of the season and the General saying "just imagine what Alex can do with good players and Randy's financial backing", I cannot imagine that Lerner expected the season to be as bad as it has been.  Also, Lerner cannot be happy with the loss of faith by the supporters and the effect on the financial income both this season and projected for next if the manager stays on.

I think that Lerner and Faulkner are naive in football matters but I do not think they are stupid.  McLeish has now shown with another club that he does not have what it takes as a manager at this level.

With the difference in TV and position money being about £7m difference in finishing 15th compared with 8th (or £1m per place), keeping him on to save paying compensation does not stack up in my opinion.  The man does not pay his way and this is before taking into account less revenue on matchdays.

I believe that we will have a new manager next season. 

 

Offline villadelph

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #5776 on: May 06, 2012, 07:26:03 PM »
I understand that some box holders asked about renewing after 5 years have told club - "not while mcLeish is at the club".

If Randy ignores the terrible football he surely will not ignore his investment and give this joke of a manager his P45 (plus a few million as compensation).

No matter what McLeish is making out like a bandit. Best payday of his life.. at the expense of Aston Villa. Who woulda thunk it?

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #5777 on: May 06, 2012, 07:26:19 PM »
Well, if we end with him next season it's almost a case of getting up with what we deserve.
Today we had the chance to show the club how we feel about the manager, but other than a few half arsed chants at full time, most people sighed, shrugged and then left the ground.
If you can't be bothered to stay,stand up and let your feelings be known then dont moan next year when the twat is still here.
Apathy rules ok !!!!

Not renewing my season ticket until he's gone will be a rather more solid reminder to the board than standing up and shouting a few chants at the end of the match.

Offline slabsquare

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #5778 on: May 06, 2012, 07:27:25 PM »
The little tw#t has already given an interview post-match saying that he will be rebuilding in the summer - not on my watch, you clueless little t#rd

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #5779 on: May 06, 2012, 07:30:04 PM »
Well, if we end with him next season it's almost a case of getting up with what we deserve.
Today we had the chance to show the club how we feel about the manager, but other than a few half arsed chants at full time, most people sighed, shrugged and then left the ground.
If you can't be bothered to stay,stand up and let your feelings be known then dont moan next year when the twat is still here.
Apathy rules ok !!!!

I think it would be disappointing to say the least if our club made decisions based on an isolated protest at the end of one game. It should be obvious from our woeful form, disgraceful league position, reduced gates and constant slagging of the manager on forums and phone-ins that neither the team nor the fans want him to continue.

Offline caster troy

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #5780 on: May 06, 2012, 07:36:42 PM »
If Lerner and Faulkner have any common sense whatsoever they will sack McLeish, another season with him in charge doesn't bear thinking about.

I'm certainly not setting foot in Villa Park again until he's gone.

Offline myf

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #5781 on: May 06, 2012, 07:38:04 PM »
Some interesting quotes from him about the players. There is no doubt that some of them need to shoulder the blame as well for this (and last) season. whatever happens we need a clear out

Offline Brian Taylor

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #5782 on: May 06, 2012, 07:39:34 PM »
Eck bears a passing resemblance to Orson in his day though not sure Mr Welles would like that..
Tana(Marlene Dietrich) reads the cards... Mc's dilemma somehow reminded me of this..I wish his fate was as classic.. 'Your future is all used up'

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preceding bit..
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNqp7AW2aKU
« Last Edit: May 06, 2012, 08:14:29 PM by Brian Taylor »

Offline villadelph

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #5783 on: May 06, 2012, 07:39:53 PM »
I know talk is cheap in football but with Faulkner stating that Europe was the target at the start of the season and the General saying "just imagine what Alex can do with good players and Randy's financial backing", I cannot imagine that Lerner expected the season to be as bad as it has been.  Also, Lerner cannot be happy with the loss of faith by the supporters and the effect on the financial income both this season and projected for next if the manager stays on.

I think that Lerner and Faulkner are naive in football matters but I do not think they are stupid.  McLeish has now shown with another club that he does not have what it takes as a manager at this level.

With the difference in TV and position money being about £7m difference in finishing 15th compared with 8th (or £1m per place), keeping him on to save paying compensation does not stack up in my opinion.  The man does not pay his way and this is before taking into account less revenue on matchdays.

I believe that we will have a new manager next season.

We have to remember that Randy does very little in terms of the Football Operation within the club. The same way he employs Mike Holmgren to oversee and have responsibility with the Browns is the same way he trusted Faulkner to properly set us up for success. I think Randy will take a good look at those around him at the table meetings. He sees himself as a custodian to the club remember, not a footballing genius who has done it before.

He's fired General Managers before and he ousted an up and coming Eric Mangini after a very short, unsuccessful stint. He's not familiar with success that's for sure, so we can't expect him to properly know how to sustain it. Especially given the inadequacies at the top of the food chain. Paul Faulkner I'm talking to you.

However, he is responsible for doing the little things right. Like your homework. It was a bad idea from the start and it was never going to work. And because you didn't do you homework you will have to pay substantial amounts of compensation towards an avoidable mistake. It's okay, we'll survive.. but you've got to cut your losses and move on.

As for the exodus of players this summer.. things could get crazy. I don't think anyone is safe to be honest. Whoever can make some spending money will be gone, kids included. I can't see Darren being worth much with a ruptured ankle at the moment. If we're going to have to pay for McLeish to leave and get a decent amount of spending money (which it's going to take) for a decent manager to come in here and decide to rebuild the club, a lot of players are going to have their find their way out the exit. Some heartbreakers I presume.

« Last Edit: May 06, 2012, 07:42:06 PM by villadelph »

Offline The Situation

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #5784 on: May 06, 2012, 07:42:00 PM »
The fans are coming out speaking their mind via protest, maybe the players should speak their minds too and revolt against McLeish?

Offline Lowendbehold

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #5785 on: May 06, 2012, 07:46:16 PM »
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The little tw#t has already given an interview post-match saying that he will be rebuilding in the summer - not on my watch, you clueless little t#rd

Is he possibly going to say anything else? Would he have said in a post match interview, "I'm going to resign/be sacked/see what happens"?

It must be clear to all that he will not be accepted at any price.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #5786 on: May 06, 2012, 07:46:37 PM »
The fans are coming out speaking their mind via protest, maybe the players should speak their minds too and revolt against McLeish?

But they are perfectly content under McLeish as he is a comfort zone manager. He won't push them beyond the level they are willing to work. When Houllier tried to train them more heavily and get them to pass the ball they revolted. Under McLeish, they just have to run and aimlessly kick a ball. They will love it and will be desperately hoping he will still be in charge next season.

Offline Lowendbehold

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #5787 on: May 06, 2012, 07:48:05 PM »
The fans are coming out speaking their mind via protest, maybe the players should speak their minds too and revolt against McLeish?

Maybe they see him differently to us?

Offline Lowendbehold

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #5788 on: May 06, 2012, 07:52:58 PM »
The fans are coming out speaking their mind via protest, maybe the players should speak their minds too and revolt against McLeish?

But they are perfectly content under McLeish as he is a comfort zone manager. He won't push them beyond the level they are willing to work. When Houllier tried to train them more heavily and get them to pass the ball they revolted. Under McLeish, they just have to run and aimlessly kick a ball. They will love it and will be desperately hoping he will still be in charge next season.
I think that's just too cynical for words. But players will be concerned about their own futures. The kids will not know better and the older players tried and failed with that with Houllier. Anyway I don't here talk that he's lost the dressing room.


Offline The Situation

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #5789 on: May 06, 2012, 07:53:34 PM »
If the players are content playing under McLeish as manager then it makes it even more depressing. Who on earth would want to play for the man who is holding this team back? He's a clueless ******!

 


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