AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[Merv]

More time..... I think those on here who called for McLeish to be judged after a full season were being perfectly fair to say that; we're just about there now and I don't see anything from the manager to deserve a second season. The current campaign has been almost as bad as it can possibly get, and I don't really see any signs of encouragement.

[john e]

More time..... I think those on here who called for McLeish to be judged after a full season were being perfectly fair to say that; we're just about there now and I don't see anything from the manager to deserve a second season. The current campaign has been almost as bad as it can possibly get, and I don't really see any signs of encouragement.

i think if we had gone the whole season with a guest manager every week (like have i got news for you )
we wouldnt have done any worse

[PaulWinch again]

Yep he's had plenty of time and has shown no signs of progression, in fact it's more like regression. He has done a terrible job, and he can blame injuries all he wants but as Ozz says he had hardly any injuries for two thirds of the season and made awful selections with no tactical clue. He has no excuses, he has been dreadful. If the board have any idea what they're doing, they'll admit a mistake was made and get rid immeadiately.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

In normal circumstances you'd have no need to mither as you would be assured that the people in charge would pull the trigger at the seasons end, but you just never know with this lot.
If they're fuckwitted enough to take him on, they might just be stupid enough to give him another season.

[markus209]

I can't see him being here next season. Am I right in thinking that Randy Lerner attended the game against Bolton? He'd have witnessed for himself the masses of empty seats and the foul atmosphere about the place by the final whistle.

[ozzjim]

Imagine what it will be like if we are a couple down to Spurs this weekend.

[PaulWinch again]

Imagine what it will be like if we are a couple down to Spurs this weekend.

I was thinking this, if we're a couple down at half time it's going to get ugly.

[VillaAlways]

And to give him a 3 year contract to boot. The ultimate in fuckwittedness Any normal chairman would have given him a year. Mind you any normal chairman wouldn't have employed him

[ozzjim]

Any normal chairman would certainly have put in a break clause for a certain number of points, so it is somewhat performance related. In such a results, and statistically easy to analyse business, it amazes me that there is not much more performance related contract style negotiating with both players and managers, that gives the clubs an out from this frankly insane system where people are walking away with millions and millions for doing a very poor job.

[DB]

More time..... I think those on here who called for McLeish to be judged after a full season were being perfectly fair to say that; we're just about there now and I don't see anything from the manager to deserve a second season. The current campaign has been almost as bad as it can possibly get, and I don't really see any signs of encouragement.

He was sh*t before he came here, he is just a poor manager. But we employed him, gave him a chance and guess what, he IS sh*t. Only 1 point down on our total so far and we would be going down, goal diff will keep us up. Poor state of affairs.

[not3bad]

Yep he's had plenty of time and has shown no signs of progression, in fact it's more like regression.

I think he may have genuinely set out to be more positive this season.  The problem is:

1) If there is any kind of setback, like injuries or suspensions
2) If his team are playing someone very high in the league, or bang in form, or both
3) If there is any pressure on him or the team, like after a poor result or a run of them

These are the points where he will revert to type, and we'll see the negativity come out.

[Risso]

From Statto.com

It just perfectly encapsulates McLeish's approach to football.
 
Even this from the year Blues finished 9th:
The only Premier League team that season not to win a game by more than a one goal margin.
 

 

[Merv]

In normal circumstances you'd have no need to mither as you would be assured that the people in charge would pull the trigger at the seasons end, but you just never know with this lot.
If they're fuckwitted enough to take him on, they might just be stupid enough to give him another season.

I agree. I'm certainly far from confident he'll be leaving in the summer.

[Walmley_Villa]

I have found him pretty anonymous. Yes he had the private meetings with a few fans in the Summer and said the right things. We had that nice e-mail promising us everything would be fine and dandy and now look where that has got us. Mutiny in the stands and a very poor team. McLeish has not interacted with the fanbase as far as I am aware. Yes he does the odd inetrview but I thought he was a workacholic - first one at Bodymoor and last to leave. If he had come out and met the fans more he might have gained a bit more respect but has just stayed in his cocoon and blamed everyone and everything apart from himself.

I want somebody to own the footballing side of the club from top to bottom. To nurture the youngsters and build on the great foundations that our coaches there are laying down. To have a first team squad that will run through brick walls for the manager and the club and also appreciate the support the fans give them. The players, coaches, staff and fans should be a one team taking the club in the right direction. There will be ups and downs but if we can all see light at the end of the tunnel we can get there.

Anyway, where are my pills?

[mr underhill]

i'm going to piss on eveyone's parade as I've heard he's going nowhere