AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[barrysleftfoot]

  The Mercury would'nt have produced such a story as they did yday if they did'nt have some kind of insider info.

  The negative costs for keeping McL would cost us more than £5m per year imho, with reduced home attendances, and the effects that would have on matcd day income, and more importantly lack of interest in the club.If they think the supporters were harsh this season, if they keep him for next year then it will be much worse.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Add to that what type of manager would be available mid-season should things continue on a downward spirral? Hardly the best time to go searching for a replacement.

I'd also question whether he's worthy of trusting with whatever transfer funds we may have. Hutton and N'Zogbia are right up there with Davies, Sidwell and Harewood. Utter crap!

[Irish villain]

picking up on midgeavfac's post about PF chatting to people at a recent corporate do its true and I made a simiar post a week or two ago. however during his chat with my brother-in-law who knows him to talk to at these do's he only really talked about not understanding why our crowds were solow this season, when, even factoring in the current economic climate, other clubs had not seen such a marked decline. Naturally my b-i-law wa a little gobsmacked and suggested it had a lot to do with AM, worst home season ever, etc etc. PF then expressed support for his gingerness but as others point out, you wouldn't expect him to do anything other than that. Lastly, this was a few weeks ago, and the situation has got worse since, he obvious tipping point being last Tuesday.

If true, PF is a deluded man. Last season, on the day McLeish was appointed I wondered if we'd sell out a single game this season. I expected attendances to be down on Houllier's year at the helm. How can they not make this link?

[Vanilla]

The decision maker/s will sit down and way up the pros and cons and decide to stand by the manager. They are fully aware of the fans feelings and will anticipate a big hit in season ticket sales – losing 10,000 sales would be the worst case scenario and that would cost around £5m.

It's not £5m though, it's £5m plus associated sales next season...and the next season etc..

It's not just ticket sales, we stand to lose between £4m - £5m this season on PL prize money compared to last season.
I can't believe Randy and Faulkner are from the same school as George Osborne, where they'll continuously cut away at the costs whilst ignoring the revenue losses. For that reason alone it makes financial sense to replace Alex McLeish.

Yes but no one at the club seems to have financial sense. Irrespective of the high salaries granted to signings, the compensation packages to MON, Houllier, Blues for poaching the current manager and the presumably the imminent redundancy to said current manager must be reaching circa £15 million.

[Merv]

Hmmm. You would have thought (or hoped) that Faulkner would have grasped the link between good results and performances and crowd attendance.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

The decision maker/s will sit down and way up the pros and cons and decide to stand by the manager. They are fully aware of the fans feelings and will anticipate a big hit in season ticket sales – losing 10,000 sales would be the worst case scenario and that would cost around £5m.

It's not £5m though, it's £5m plus associated sales next season...and the next season etc..

It's not just ticket sales, we stand to lose between £4m - £5m this season on PL prize money compared to last season.
I can't believe Randy and Faulkner are from the same school as George Osborne, where they'll continuously cut away at the costs whilst ignoring the revenue losses. For that reason alone it makes financial sense to replace Alex McLeish.

Yes but no one at the club seems to have financial sense. Irrespective of the high salaries granted to signings, the compensation packages to MON, Houllier, Blues for poaching the current manager and the presumably the imminent redundancy to said current manager must be reaching circa £15 million.

Of course there's some grasp of reality regarding our financial situation within the club, why else would we be looking to drastically reduce the wage bill? The £15m in compensation was mainly unavoidable. What's not is the potential lost revenue from gate receipts and prize money. As I mentioned earlier, it doesn't make financial sense, nevermind footballing sense, to keep Alex McLeish as manager.

As Risso has pointed out on here in some detail, we are seriously in debt and it will take some time to recover. I'd imagine the telesales to season ticket holders over these last few months, the reduced numbers of renewals to date and ever deducing  attendances this season, especially season ticket holders not bothering to turn up, will have the alarm bells ringing.

The big question is not whether we replace McLeish this summer but who we replace him with. Now that's an area at the club where we seem to have no sense. I'd love to know who were the so-called 'advisors' last summer. Somebody was seriously taking the piss.

[ClaretAndBlueBlood]

I'd love to know who were the so-called 'advisors' last summer

Fergie!!!

[PaulWinch again]

If they keep Mcleish they will be in for a lot of pain. The fans have had enough, fewer will turn up and we will only get worse. I can't believe they are that stupid, so surely he's gone. He's completely lost the fans.

[Dante Lavelli]

I'd love to know who were the so-called 'advisors' last summer

Fergie!!!

Especially when GT is quoted as saying they invited him in to advise and then pretty much stood him up.  It does sound like "Sir Alex” was one of very few footballing advisors.

[Walmley_Villa]

I'd love to know who were the so-called 'advisors' last summer

Fergie!!!

McLeish's agent.... (not Fergy's son is it...?)

[cb]

This would be funny if it wasn't so tragic! I fully understand the need for us to cut our cloth to measure at the moment. We won't be able to compete with the likes of City for many years to come. PL football has become mind numbingly boring for those outside the top four and clubs now have to effectively risk their very existence to make the jump to the top level, or else rely upon a super rich mega billionaire. Our billionaire isn't mega-rich and wants us to be self-sustaining. I get that. However, I don't believe that this has to go hand in hand with employing the manager who likes to play the most tedious tactics in the league. Yes we may have to make do with mid-table for some time to come, but I think we could at least be a little bit interesting and maybe even begin to look competitive again, without having to spend 100s of millions. If we at least saw that the club was trying to be a bit progressive, in terms of what we were doing on the football side of things then I think the fans would be on board, but the way things are going now, I just don't see why we should.

I've been a Villa fan for nigh on twenty years now, and I have known darker times and better times, but I have never been so utterly disinterested in my own club, or football in general for that matter. If they want me to shell out the travel expenses and matchday expenses to come to VP, then it needs to be at least somewhat worth my time and money. I'm not even talking about winning stuff here, I'm just saying that for me to spend in excess of £100 to go to VP I need something more than the snooze-fests I've seen this year to make me think it's worth it...

[villajk]

Nothing to do with me.  Just posting.

McLeish Out Day
 
Sunday 6th May
 
**PRESS RELEASE**
 
This statement is in direct reply to the Chairman and CEO`s statement of the 25/04/12
 
On the 6th of May 2012 - 'McLeish out Day` is a day dedicated to broadcasting the message, loud and clear, that the vast majority of Aston Villa supporters are extremely unhappy with the current situation at Villa Park.
 
This is more than a protest to remove McLeish.
 
It is an opportunity for all Villa fans to express their dismay at the ignorance of the Clubs owner and management and the apparent disregard of the concerns of the loyal supporters. There have been measures taken by Aston Villa Football Club to suffocate the ground swell of discontent, and we offer all Aston villa fans the opportunity to peacefully show their dismay at our Board and management.
 
McLeish Out Day is the culmination of a series of planned events, taking place around the ground, before, during and after the match, organised by a number of fan groups, that will leave the Club and the watching media in no doubt whatsoever that the fans have had enough and will take no more.
 
McLeish's position as Aston Villa Manager is now widely perceived as untenable. A concern that was voiced by many Villa supporters before his appointment was confirmed and throughout his disastrous tenure. We absolutely will not accept another season under his stewardship.
 
It is not about where he came from. It is where he is taking us.
 
*Our worst home record in the History of Aston Villa Football Club.
 
*On course for our worst points tally since the formation of the English Premier League.
 
*Our lowest amount of wins in Villa's proud Premiership History.
 
*Just one win in our last 14 games.
 
*An alarming slump in matchday attendances.
 
The team will receive our full passionate and vocal support during the game as always.
 
Before this season is over, the fans will have the final say.
 
 
 
Read more: http://www.astonvilla.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=7512017#ixzz1tXeT63Z8

[villadelph]

Well said cb.

[Legion]

I love you Legion! Even though I disagree on the collymore thing.

That's what a discussion board is for. A difference of opinion. Even though you're wrong!

Am not!

x infinity plus one. I win. Ner ner.

I can confirm through a family member that SVC has been a Villa fan all his life. The link with Wolves comes from the time he was on YTS terms with them and he used to go and watch occasionally. He was also on a YTS at Walsall and did the same there. Please feel free to apologise profusely...

[PeterWithesShin]

So why did he goad .... nah can't be arsed anymore. I'll stick to my opinion based on what I saw and leave everyone else to theirs.