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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4950 on: April 29, 2012, 09:55:49 AM »
I reckon he may not have been told, but rumours are negotiations with agents over his targets have been put on hold etc, and the club statement was pretty damning on the manager. If he is here at the start of next season I will eat my hat.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4951 on: April 29, 2012, 09:56:18 AM »
His demeanor against the Baggies spoke volumes, the more interesting point is what is Randy going to do about financing a rebuild? surely if we survive this he will have realised substantial funds will have to be given to any decent incoming manager.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4952 on: April 29, 2012, 09:58:18 AM »
I am guessing that they have mutually agreed to part Company after the Norwich game.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2012, 10:03:31 AM by Moorski »

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4953 on: April 29, 2012, 09:58:29 AM »
I reckon he will put some cash in this summer, maybe 20 million plus freebies and players moved on, the wages are down and he will know that we need 6-7 players.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4954 on: April 29, 2012, 10:10:00 AM »
I am guessing that they have mutually agreed to part Company after the Norwich game.

That's my guess too. The lengthy time with Lerner and Faulkner after the Bolton game before doing any post-match press interviews, the statement on the OS, the bits in his press conference about only focusing on the last 3 games, and his entire demeanour throughout yesterday's game, all point towards them agreeing to part company at the end of the season. His time with us is done thank fuck

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4955 on: April 29, 2012, 10:16:57 AM »
I am guessing that they have mutually agreed to part Company after the Norwich game.

That's my guess too. The lengthy time with Lerner and Faulkner after the Bolton game before doing any post-match press interviews, the statement on the OS, the bits in his press conference about only focusing on the last 3 games, and his entire demeanour throughout yesterday's game, all point towards them agreeing to part company at the end of the season. His time with us is done thank fuck
Oh i hope you are right on that one.If it is correct then that would lift the doom and gloom that hangs over us at the moment.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4956 on: April 29, 2012, 10:26:37 AM »
I dont understand this desire to put KMac in charge for the end of the season. I went to Newcastle last year when KMac was in charge and it was not a pretty sight.

As painful as it is to watch McLeish's tactics I don't think sacking him now would be the best thing to do. But hopefully Randy has decided that McLeish is gone as soon as the full time whistle goes at Norwich - no matter what division we're in.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4957 on: April 29, 2012, 10:35:43 AM »
I dont understand this desire to put KMac in charge for the end of the season. I went to Newcastle last year when KMac was in charge and it was not a pretty sight.

As painful as it is to watch McLeish's tactics I don't think sacking him now would be the best thing to do. But hopefully Randy has decided that McLeish is gone as soon as the full time whistle goes at Norwich - no matter what division we're in.

Newcastle was as bad as West Ham was good. But KMac would have more players in the current team he is familiar with and vice versa than that team when he was in charge. Its only 2 games, and it should happen in my opinion.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4958 on: April 29, 2012, 10:39:28 AM »
KMac took six points from nine and picked up a good draw in Vienna with an away goal... befote Vurtis Davies struck in the second leg.

I think he would lift the squad and cknfidence seems to be one of the biggest issues.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4959 on: April 29, 2012, 10:46:54 AM »
I think the point is about removing McLeish from the firing line. He has failed, and any further failures on the pitch will create a sour atmosphere because the mere fact that he's still there gives the fans somebody to vent their spleen at. With him gone, the fans would be united and vocal in their support for the kids. Would KMac do a worse job at this stage?

On the point that Randy and McLeish have already 'mutually agreed' to separate after Norwich. I can't believe that. What motivation does a man that has already been dismissed have to do the best job he can? More likely, they've said: 'We'll see where we are at the end of the season Now keep us up.'

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4960 on: April 29, 2012, 10:56:02 AM »
I dont understand this desire to put KMac in charge for the end of the season. I went to Newcastle last year when KMac was in charge and it was not a pretty sight.

As painful as it is to watch McLeish's tactics I don't think sacking him now would be the best thing to do. But hopefully Randy has decided that McLeish is gone as soon as the full time whistle goes at Norwich - no matter what division we're in.

Newcastle was as bad as West Ham was good. But KMac would have more players in the current team he is familiar with and vice versa than that team when he was in charge. Its only 2 games, and it should happen in my opinion.

West Ham was good on the back of a confident Albrighton and a quite brilliant 26 million pound midfield player. We fell apart when he left, and in truth I would not want KMac or Eck in charge of the last 2. He is assistant at the moment too, so clearly has a greater influence than he had previously. I would sooner see McAndrew given the 2 games!

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4961 on: April 29, 2012, 10:57:17 AM »
I think the point is about removing McLeish from the firing line. He has failed, and any further failures on the pitch will create a sour atmosphere because the mere fact that he's still there gives the fans somebody to vent their spleen at. With him gone, the fans would be united and vocal in their support for the kids. Would KMac do a worse job at this stage?

On the point that Randy and McLeish have already 'mutually agreed' to separate after Norwich. I can't believe that. What motivation does a man that has already been dismissed have to do the best job he can? More likely, they've said: 'We'll see where we are at the end of the season Now keep us up.'
This.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4962 on: April 29, 2012, 11:12:03 AM »
I dont understand this desire to put KMac in charge for the end of the season. I went to Newcastle last year when KMac was in charge and it was not a pretty sight.

As painful as it is to watch McLeish's tactics I don't think sacking him now would be the best thing to do. But hopefully Randy has decided that McLeish is gone as soon as the full time whistle goes at Norwich - no matter what division we're in.

Newcastle was as bad as West Ham was good. But KMac would have more players in the current team he is familiar with and vice versa than that team when he was in charge. Its only 2 games, and it should happen in my opinion.

West Ham was good on the back of a confident Albrighton and a quite brilliant 26 million pound midfield player. We fell apart when he left, and in truth I would not want KMac or Eck in charge of the last 2. He is assistant at the moment too, so clearly has a greater influence than he had previously. I would sooner see McAndrew given the 2 games!

West Ham wasn't on the back of anything except turmoil, it was the first game of the season and he deserves the credit for getting that team ready who were brilliant across the pitch. The players clearly loved playing for him.

KMac is first team coach and (all conquering) reserves boss and Grant is assistant. I wonder how much input or influence KMac has at the moment. It doesnt look like much considering the style of play.
Anyway, we're talking about an interim situation at best. It's preferable to leaving a man in charge who cant be arsed to get off the bench and looks utterly spent. How is he going to motivate a team now and who else do we have to step in if not KMac and Sid? McAndrew isn't ready for this situation. That would be cruel.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4963 on: April 29, 2012, 11:16:35 AM »
It's debatable how much influence Kmac has, but on our way up to Old Trafford the other week, a mate of mine spoke to him at Sandbach Services so he did'nt travel with the squad.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4964 on: April 29, 2012, 11:19:30 AM »
McLeech simply won't want another relegation on his CV, but if he walked now it would look just as bad. My guess is Randy, being a nice chap has let McLeech, another nice chap, have his toy, that is Aston Villa Football Club, to play with until the end of the season such that he has a chance of getting another job without the relegation on his CV in exchange for a severance deal that doesn't hurt so much.

Well, it's as good as any other theory, and based on just the same amount of knowledge, i.e. sod all!

 


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