AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[bertlambshank]

Saw him on Midlands Today and his demeanor was that of a man who has already been told that he's gone at the end of the season no matter what happens in the next three games.

I expect to see an official announcement the day after the season ends.

Yep,that's how I saw it.

Anything specific that indicated that?

He was asked about the statement and said it was only about the next 3 games,not next season.

[john e]

i see the same body language that i've been seeing for the last  months,
 and that is one where he knows he's going and is just going through the motions,
 obviously he doesnt want to get Villa relegated as it will be some sort of record, 3 times in 4 years is going to take some beating, and i'm sure he'l do all he can not to have that on his CV

[pauliewalnuts]

From an article on bbc.co.uk

"They realise the tough job I've got and perhaps that's why they've chosen me because they've seen me getting through tough jobs like this before."

he must be living in his own little world.  He's had this same tough job twice before in the premier league and has failed both times.  Seems like a really strange thing for him to even bring up, he must realise how that will read to anyone who knows his record in the league.  I genuinely think he's given up even thinking about what he says now.

That is just incredible.

Tough job? For fucks sake. Nowhere near as tough as the one he bollocksed up last season.

Alex, the reason they chose you is because they're fucking clueless.

I genuinely have an even lower opinion of this bloke than I did of O'Leary.

[PaulWinch again]

From an article on bbc.co.uk

"They realise the tough job I've got and perhaps that's why they've chosen me because they've seen me getting through tough jobs like this before."

he must be living in his own little world.  He's had this same tough job twice before in the premier league and has failed both times.  Seems like a really strange thing for him to even bring up, he must realise how that will read to anyone who knows his record in the league.  I genuinely think he's given up even thinking about what he says now.

That is just incredible.

Tough job? For fucks sake. Nowhere near as tough as the one he bollocksed up last season.

Alex, the reason they chose you is because they're fucking clueless.

I genuinely have an even lower opinion of this bloke than I did of O'Leary.

Quite, all a bit different from his initial claims.

[jembob]

i see the same body language that i've been seeing for the last  months,
 and that is one where he knows he's going and is just going through the motions,
 obviously he doesnt want to get Villa relegated as it will be some sort of record, 3 times in 4 years is going to take some beating, and i'm sure he'll do all he can not to have that on his CV

He might do his best but we've already seen that it's nowhere near good enough. Like it or not, the unwelcome addition to his CV will be determined by other teams and nothing to do with anything which he can influence. The only really positive action which he could have taken in recent months was to leave but you can't blame him for hanging on for the pay off. I'm starting to feel sorry for him now as it's not his fault that he's not good enough and I genuinely hope that he doesn't have to face the personal abuse which he'll get at the Spurs game. If the club has any sense they'll save him the humiliation and we can get on with supporting the team without distraction.

[PaulWinch again]

Saw him on Midlands Today and his demeanor was that of a man who has already been told that he's gone at the end of the season no matter what happens in the next three games.

I expect to see an official announcement the day after the season ends.

Yep,that's how I saw it.

Anything specific that indicated that?

He was asked about the statement and said it was only about the next 3 games,not next season.

Good that's promising. I just pray we stay in the league and he's gone come the end of May.

[Lowendbehold]

I have  ever advocated sacking AM mid season.  See Wolves.

However the reaction of the fans from all sides of the ground during the Bolton game means that whatever the result at Albion, it's not going to be good for Spurs. In fact if we go behind its going to be bloody awful.  To some extent it has had a profound effect on the kids.  Hence our home form.

With only 2 games after the Baggies, it makes no sense to keep AM after WBA.

Whatever the result at WBA, sack him.  The effect on the Spurs game would be enormous. A full house, fantastic atmosphere and the effect on the team enormous.

[Dave Clark Five]

Whatever the result at WBA, sack him.  The effect on the Spurs game would be enormous. A full house, fantastic atmosphere and the effect on the team enormous.

Yes. It would be nice for all those who were never going again to put their money where their mouth is.

[Tom Sawyer]

McLeish is now a lame duck manager. It's all about the players and the team. Maybe, perversely, someone like Dunne could influence the players over the next couple of games. It's not like we've got many other options.

[Steve67]

McLeish is now a lame duck manager. It's all about the players and the team. Maybe, perversely, someone like Dunne could influence the players over the next couple of games. It's not like we've got many other options.

Might be a bit like letting the lunatics take over the asylum but it can't be any worse than we're currently getting. A couple of draws might be enough. Anything that works to give us those points and I'd snatch someones arms off.

[Dave Clark Five]

Correct. We need to stay up.

[villanic]

I’m actually starting to believe that there is more chance of him getting the sack if we win against the Tesco bags than if we lose.

 A win tomorrow and we are safe (my own opinion) so we copuld sack him or he resigns, we put Kev Mac and Sid in charge for the last 2 games and get a good feeling about the club again and what ever we get from the those games is a bonus in a way, Job done everyone can walk away happy (in a weird way).

Lose to the boggies and I think RL and PF will continue to back him because they really are clueless and it seems that they really, really do want to prove that they where right.

I know the 2 above sentences are slightly contidicting in that a win tomorrow proves RL and PF right anyway but I think they will have to act because even though he has done the job that he was brought into do (survive), he has done it in the most abysmal way with negative, defensive and boring football.

If RL and PF had any sense about them (doughtful I know) they would look at how the likes of Wigan have about things and realise that you do not need to play the scrap football we have had to sit through for the vast majority of this season to at the very least survive and that with a decent manager we could actually do ok without spending millions like Swansea and Norwich have proved this season.

[Yossarian]

I can confirm that McCleish has purchased a rather big house in Welford-Upon-Avon just down from The Shakespeare. Not the actions of a man who thinks he might be out of a job anytime soon.

[curiousorange]

McLeish will not be sacked if we win. He will not be sacked if we lose. The club have made a statement about the three remaining games and come hell or high-water they will stick to their plan. And I can see their point - he's been a disaster, but it's insanity to sack somebody with two weeks left of the season, especially during a relegation battle. The instability of doing so could capsize an already listing ship. Not even Newcastle would do such a thing.

[curiousorange]

I can confirm that McCleish has purchased a rather big house in Welford-Upon-Avon just down from The Shakespeare. Not the actions of a man who thinks he might be out of a job anytime soon.

Pre-contract from Wolves