AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Well if he does get the push he will have trousered £4m for the remainder of his contract, his reward for being an utter, abject failure.

What a weird world the football industry is.

I would hope AM's quits. All this talk of saying "I'm not a quitter I can turn it around". A bigger braver man must be able to admit defeat and say "Sorry everyone I tried my best, cheerio" and leave without a big pay off.
But like you say this is football and it is very strange industry indeed.

Ha! You've got more chance of being stuck by lightning! He's not going to give up 4 million quid - in fact I can't remember the last time a manager resigned, that's not how it works these days.

It won't just be because of the money either, in his weird wibbly wobbly world he'll be convinced that he's done a good job with us.

[OzVilla]

If the Club were foolish enough to insert pay off clause, even in the event of his sacking for finishing in the bottom 6, then they deserve all they get.

Pay offs should only be for Managers who have achieved atleast a pass mark - even if we do stay up this season can hardly be described as that.

If they don't like such a clause they don't get the job, simple as that - we want confident winners not losers on the make.

[Californian Villain]

If the Club were foolish enough to insert pay off clause, even in the event of his sacking for finishing in the bottom 6, then they deserve all they get.

Pay offs should only be for Managers who have achieved atleast a pass mark - even if we do stay up this season can hardly be described as that.

If they don't like such a clause they don't get the job, simple as that - we want confident winners not losers on the make.

I know what you mean - it seems ludicrous that the reward for failure is such a huge payout.

[Damo70]

Fewest home wins achieved, fewest Premier League points looking likely. AM can quite rightly point out that he is truly a record breaking manager on future CV's.

[villasjf]

And an article from the Guardians site from yesterday afternoon, might have already been posted somewhere on H&V but looking to make sure could take a while.http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/apr/25/aston-villa-fans-alex-mcleish

Already on this thread somewhere, but worth re-posting for anyone who hasn't read it. I'm a bit surprised Stuart James hasn't written this piece before, he's usually switched on to what is really going on at VP.

A very good article.

[David_Nab]

Like recent Villa mangers this is the end for him as a manger he won't get a bigger job 3 relegations fights with strong possibility of losing them all ,no club will touch him.

The cold hard truth is after relegation last season few would have employed him still no logical reason why we did.

[Californian Villain]

You could say the same thing about most of our players.

[Phil from the upper holte]

Cracking article by Thompson there, I still love Sir Graham I wish he was there in some capacity

[villasjf]

Now that they've decided to put our Premier League future in the hands of the man who has got us 1 win out of the last 12 games, i suggest the club knock the cold calling enquiring about ST renewals on the head for the time being.

And trying to sell tickets to the friendlies in America. There is a time and place for everything.

[caster troy]

Huge credit to Stuart Thompson, that is a great article, absolutely spot on. Just wish it was about someone else's club!

[PaulWinch again]

I tell you what given that many of us have interpreted the statement the way we have. He better be gone in the summer or it's not going to be pretty.

[ROBBO]

I did get a chuckle out of one reply that said if Hodgson gets the England job then perhaps McCleish can go to the Baggies thereby relegating all the Midlands, that would be some acheivement. Not only was the article brilliant but most of the replies were intelligent and well thought out. What will the players attitude be knowing there boss is cactus?

[Risso]

Well if he does get the push he will have trousered £4m for the remainder of his contract, his reward for being an utter, abject failure.

What a weird world the football industry is.

I would hope AM's quits. All this talk of saying "I'm not a quitter I can turn it around". A bigger braver man must be able to admit defeat and say "Sorry everyone I tried my best, cheerio" and leave without a big pay off.
But like you say this is football and it is very strange industry indeed.

Ha! You've got more chance of being stuck by lightning! He's not going to give up 4 million quid - in fact I can't remember the last time a manager resigned, that's not how it works these days.

The biggest profile one that springs to mind is Kevin Keegan after England lost to Germany at Wembley.

[Concrete John]

If the Club were foolish enough to insert pay off clause, even in the event of his sacking for finishing in the bottom 6, then they deserve all they get.

Pay offs should only be for Managers who have achieved atleast a pass mark - even if we do stay up this season can hardly be described as that.

If they don't like such a clause they don't get the job, simple as that - we want confident winners not losers on the make.

I very much doubt there has ever been such a clause in any manager's contract through the history of football.

Will he walk?  Doubtful, but stranger things have happened.  If, just for a minute, we can escape the 'Alex is the anti-Christ' mentality, then what we might have is a man who sees a job he's done poorly and genuinely wants to put it right.  We may not agree that he can or that he should be given a chance to, but that may be what we have.

As it goes, I think he's lost the fans now to the point where his position has become untenable, so the best thing for everyone is if he goes.  I wouldn't change manager now for fear it would do more harm than good, but late May a parting of the ways is vital for the club to start showing some forward momentum again.   

[ROBBO]

He will be sacked if only for one reason, if Randy keeps him on the fall out in season tickets and attendances will devestate earnings and threaten viability. Appointing a new manager especially if he is well regarded could see a resurgence in numbers.