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Offline Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4230 on: April 25, 2012, 02:50:21 PM »
My worry is that Lerner and Faulkner with carry on with AM because they do not have the capability or appetite to go through another manager search.

In recent years I've never known two more clueless c***s than Lerner and Faulkner, the only chance this club has of surviving in The Championship next season is if he sells up and takes his chubby little lapdog with him.
I remember getting lampooned by many on here not so long ago for jokingly saying something like 'I could do a better job'.

I remember getting funny comments after I said Sunderland WILL finish above us when MON took over.  Oh how right was I!?

I remember people laughing when I said that McLeish was the man to take us into Europe. Ha, ha. Who's laughing now? Oh.

Offline Culture

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4231 on: April 25, 2012, 02:51:46 PM »
Well i don't comment on this site very much, but as i watch from over here on the east coast of the USA i feel for everyone who actually bothers going down to watch the team.
I've lost all interest this season-I used to look at fixtures and think `i wonder how many we'll score' now it's the other way round, and like many people on here i can't see us getting another point and am now resigned to see us going down. The worst part is I believe Alex will be here to lead the team out in August!

Offline David_Nab

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4232 on: April 25, 2012, 02:52:41 PM »
Certainly seems a case of they knew more than us mere fans ...fans have been here before sky ,before super Sunday ,before Arab bilionaries ,200k a week footballers we do actually know something about the game !

It's amazing how not only how far we have fallen performance wise as a club but how the relationship between the board once seen as a guiding light away from the dark days of Ellis has deteriated.

Listening to fans view all the time might not be the best way to run a club but not listening at all is a far worse crime.

Deals with Genting ,Makron and USA tours mean little when you have lost your bread and butter fan base.

Offline Dr.Feelgood

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4233 on: April 25, 2012, 02:53:49 PM »
he's nailed on to stay if we get relegated, no least because Lerner's investment will take a severe financial hit, irrespective of parachute payments and selling the top earners we don't want, should someone be fool enough to want them. Why add to your financial woes by then sacking his gingerness and forking out compo? It only makes financial sense to axe him if we stay up. I think its pointless looking for a footballing rationale in anything the board do, everything is driven by money.

If that is the case - it makes more sense to sack him NOW - it's our ONLY way of staying up
(unless others lose all their games - unlikely)

And have they calculated the losses if we go down ? It doesn't bear thinking about.
(we're not just talking money ~ but fans & sucessive generations of potential fans)

Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4234 on: April 25, 2012, 02:58:57 PM »
I remember when it was stated on here that it was a proven fact that AM was a better manager than O'Neill.

It was Malcolm Everall who said it mind.

Offline Rick_avfc

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4235 on: April 25, 2012, 03:00:57 PM »
I remember when it was stated on here that it was a proven fact that AM was a better manager than O'Neill.
It was Malcolm Everall who said it mind.

Oh dear me!  Really?  :o

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4236 on: April 25, 2012, 03:06:49 PM »
I hate the ITK bollocks, but here goes.
Spoke to somebody today who is very close to the coaching staff, apparently he is very well liked by all and he is going nowhere, whatever happens.

Apparently the criticism is water off a duck's back to Lerner.

Offline mr woo

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4237 on: April 25, 2012, 03:07:38 PM »
Relegation may cost money but it also saves some. All our world class internationals will no doubt consider division two to be below them and be onto their agents five minutes after the final whistle at Nowich.

So all those naughty big wage earners will be off the bill, exactly as Randy wants. Then you make a big noise about putting trust in youth, conveniently failing to mention theyre all on a tenth of what the outgoing players were on.

Maybe thats been the plan all along...

Offline mikeb1982

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4238 on: April 25, 2012, 03:10:27 PM »
Relegation may cost money but it also saves some. All our world class internationals will no doubt consider division two to be below them and be onto their agents five minutes after the final whistle at Nowich.

So all those naughty big wage earners will be off the bill, exactly as Randy wants. Then you make a big noise about putting trust in youth, conveniently failing to mention theyre all on a tenth of what the outgoing players were on.

Maybe thats been the plan all along...
That's a hell of a price to pay, especially if the rumours of him selling up are true.  There's no guarantee we would come back

Offline PaulWinch again

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4239 on: April 25, 2012, 03:14:21 PM »
I hate the ITK bollocks, but here goes.
Spoke to somebody today who is very close to the coaching staff, apparently he is very well liked by all and he is going nowhere, whatever happens.

Apparently the criticism is water off a duck's back to Lerner.

Brilliant, if that's true Randy is dangerously stupid.

Offline Dr.Feelgood

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4240 on: April 25, 2012, 03:15:48 PM »
I hate the ITK bollocks, but here goes.
Spoke to somebody today who is very close to the coaching staff, apparently he is very well liked by all and he is going nowhere, whatever happens.

Apparently the criticism is water off a duck's back to Lerner.

In which case - I'll get my coat...

Offline pedro25

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4241 on: April 25, 2012, 03:18:09 PM »
Would it be the end of the world if we went down, look at Newcastle, it didn't seem to harm them.

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4242 on: April 25, 2012, 03:24:20 PM »
Would it be the end of the world if we went down, look at Newcastle, it didn't seem to harm them.
They had a nucleus of players who stuck with them.
If we go down then Ireland, Bent, Given, N'Zogbia and probably Gabby will be off.
Leaving us with a mixed bag of kids and crud like Dunne, Warnock and the bloke who drinks in Wetherspoons pubs.

Add to this our dire financial situation and people in control who couldn't organise a two car funeral, yes, it would be the end of the world.

Offline Cuz

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4243 on: April 25, 2012, 03:29:15 PM »
Would it be the end of the world if we went down, look at Newcastle, it didn't seem to harm them.

be a disaster

Offline NeilH

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #4244 on: April 25, 2012, 03:31:57 PM »
I hate the ITK bollocks, but here goes.
Spoke to somebody today who is very close to the coaching staff, apparently he is very well liked by all and he is going nowhere, whatever happens.

Apparently the criticism is water off a duck's back to Lerner.

If that is true then it just confirms my long held belief that the club have already factored in a drop off in support for next season and are simply relying on the loyal fans to carry on.

 


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