AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[JUAN PABLO]

All the criteria for him getting the sack has been fullfilled time and time again.I just don't get the reason for him still being in charge and  i am tired of hearing about"it would cost to much to get rid of him".Bollocks!It will cost us far more if we don't.

Thats the thing . I mean the squad he has , he could easily have got us to 10th/11th/12th .  So the difference between this and 17th or even relegation is millions . 

So yes , its cost millions to get rid of him but it will cost us 20 times more If we go down .

every place must be worth  at least 500,000 in the league probably , so I dont get the board being afraid of getting rid of him.

[Merv]

To be honest, Neil, I reckon you're dead right about the "them and us" thing.

It felt like an appointment to spite us at the time, that's what I could never understand. Pick the manager who will upset the fans the most - you couldn't have found many other 'better' candidates, and now it's coming across that they will stick by their man at whatever cost.

It's very strange, and very worrying, and if nothing changes soon (and by that I mean during the summer) then there's a real chance of some significant long-term damage to this club.

[PaulWinch again]

I'm in a strange emotional state at the moment, somewhere between rage and resignation. I'm fuming at what Mcleish through Lerner is doing to the club, but I'm resigned to the fact that Lerner is completely clueless and pig headed and won't back down after making a massive mistake. I'm desperate for the club to turn it round, but I also want Lerner to suffer for his ignorance. It's a very strange feeling.

[Jimbo]

I think the reasons for appointing him were fairly simple, if utterly crazy. Randy et al know NOTHING about football. They'd already been run ragged by more capable men in the transfer market up the road at mighty Wigan. They were desperate. Pressure was mounting. Time was running out. They had precious little to offer any new manager in terms of financial backing. They needed a yes man. Someone who was eager to take this job and work under those conditions. But he also had to have experience in the Premier League...

They realised that McLeish would probably make himself available. He fit their criteria. Then, because they know NOTHING about football, they asked someone who does for advice. Like men who know NOTHING about football, they went right to the top for the best advice. Alex Ferguson gave his old player a glowing reference. The rest is history - a very unfortunate chapter in our history, it would appear.

[barrysleftfoot]

  I would'nt have appointed McL, but i was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.Bloooose fans warned me about negative football, but again i put it down to lack of resources and club ambitions.

  However, i am struggling to think of one player who has improved under him.He is one of the 20th highest paid coaches in Europe, but i see no evidence of tactical superiority to most managers in the Prem.I see no attacking structure to the team, i see no plan B, or C.I see no sense of purpose, or fight, or desire, indeed we have too many players going through the motions.

  We need a complete change of direction, a new manager, about 8 or 9 leaving the club as well.

[Dr.Feelgood]

I think the reasons for appointing him were fairly simple, if utterly crazy. Randy et al know NOTHING about football. They'd already been run ragged by more capable men in the transfer market up the road at mighty Wigan. They were desperate. Pressure was mounting. Time was running out. They had precious little to offer any new manager in terms of financial backing. They needed a yes man. Someone who was eager to take this job and work under those conditions. But he also had to have experience in the Premier League...

They realised that McLeish would probably make himself available. He fit their criteria. Then, because they know NOTHING about football, they asked someone who does for advice. Like men who know NOTHING about football, they went right to the top for the best advice. Alex Ferguson gave his old player a glowing reference. The rest is history - a very unfortunate chapter in our history, it would appear.

Very interesting & intelligent comment.

[itbrvilla]

I find the whole thing from start to finish very distressing and deeply upsetting. 

[batucada]

When the fans were protesting at McLeish's appointment outside Villa Park a friend of mine (with no interest in football)
was attending a corporate event in the Holte Suite.
He was told by one of the Villa Management.
"The fans can protest all they like. We dont care what they want.  Mcleish is coming here as a business decision and  that's the end of it."

[andyh]

My worry is that Lerner and Faulkner with carry on with AM because they do not have the capability or appetite to go through another manager search.

[Fred]

If we lose against Spurs the atmosphere will be awful for the last game of the season. What a sad state of affairs for a club that were 6th just 2 years ago.

I wanted to give AMC the benefit of the doubt but think it is best that he moves on and we start again, hopefully the board will make a better appoinment next time.

[villajk]

Poll in the b'ham mail

http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2012/04/25/aston-villa-alex-mcleish-should-he-stay-or-should-he-go-97319-30835626/

[Mister E]

Wonder what would have happened if RL had signed Schteve against the wishes of the fans?

[Jimbo]

My worry is that Lerner and Faulkner with carry on with AM because they do not have the capability or appetite to go through another manager search.

I think that's just about the shape of it. Or maybe Randy read Children Of The Revolution, and thought he'd kick off a glorious revolution of his own from the third division?

[villajk]

Aston Villa: Alex McLeish - Should he stay or should he go?
By Mat KendrickApr 25 2012Comments (23) Recommend (5)

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Alex McLeish - Should he stay or should he go?
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Aston Villa manager Alex McLeish ran the gauntlet of unprecedented levels of hostility from the Villa Park faithful as the Claret and Blues were plunged into a relegation crisis on Tuesday night.

Angry fans called for Mcleish to be sacked and jeered the manager after the 2-1 defeat to Bolton left Villa three points above the drop-zone.

The club face three crucial games to secure their Premier League status, the Birmingham Mail is asking should Alex McLeish stay or go?


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Score: 1 Name withheld
12:45 PM on 25/4/2012
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Score: 9 wazzman
12:45 PM on 25/4/2012
Pity so many blue noses will affect the true % of us who want the man to go and go NOW. How he had the nerve to clap the fans at the end of that result belies belief. The man has no class no dignity or integrity and NO support from IMO 100% true AVFC fans. If he stays then We stay AWAY. It is not where you came from but where you are taking US.
Leave now and take that other imbecile with you P Grant. A real pair of prize *******
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Score: 4 timbailey
12:46 PM on 25/4/2012
many have shown their displeasure in watching his sytle of football by not putting bum's on seats recently. we "the royal we" should not have gave this man the job. aston villa have always played attractive football and we require a manager that allows this club to do so but if we do get relegated it will require a lot of money and restructuring to bring this club back to it rightful place top six premier league
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Score: 5 Woodchip63
12:50 PM on 25/4/2012
AT LAST!!! I have been asking for this pole to be posted for months now Mat, you have finally decided to do it. Now the board and the Ginger one will realise just how unpopular he is and up to now the figures dont lie I hope Lerner and Faulkner take note that their empire will crumble around them if they dont dismiss the Ginger one and Grant TODAY.
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Score: 8 Phillip5150
12:54 PM on 25/4/2012
Id like to know who is saying stay? Alex, are you out there?

He is a disgrace & a fraud of a manager. Sack him now & let KMAC take charge & give us some dignity.
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Score: -6 stanharland
12:55 PM on 25/4/2012
Excellent Work Agent Mcleish...

Mission almost accomplished, Stay focused , Strong ,
& we wish you Good Luck , Gods Speed ,
& a successful return directly into the NPower .
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Score: -4 Ryan23
1:02 PM on 25/4/2012
what is even funnier about all of this is that McLeish won Blues a trophy and Villa haven't won anything for 16 years, and Villa paid £3 million to take him off Blues hands!
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Score: 6 forevaavillan1
1:03 PM on 25/4/2012
He should of never have become Villa manager never mind should he go! I don't know of one Villa fan who wants to see this Man and his hopo remain at VP.

Off you go now Mcleish and take your baggage with you.
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Score: 1 BradleyBoy
1:16 PM on 25/4/2012
Although the stay figure is gradually reducing, I don't believe the figures for a minute. Granted there may be a few bluenoses voting to muddy the waters but even 5% wanting him to stay is unbelievable. Which begs the question, does the Evening Mail have a hidden agenda to keep McLeish in the job? I seem to remember back to last season, the Liverpool Echo (Evening Mail sister paper) were instrumental in removing Roy Hodgson! What's so different about Birmingham? VTID
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Score: 3 derk
1:17 PM on 25/4/2012
Do we really need a poll to know whatt we have all been saying for months, if it isn't 100% in favour then I suspect blue noses are voting along Mc Muppets family,
and friends, oh yes and his bank manager & accountant
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Score: 4 Tim
1:30 PM on 25/4/2012
Can we have a similar poll for Lerner?
 
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Score: 1 terrygibson59
1:33 PM on 25/4/2012
It is not only a case of should he go? It is also a case of should the owner & his bunch of half wits go with him?
They had the audacity to bring him to this club so they should do the decent thing GO with him. I have not darkened the turnstiles of Villa Park since our monday night capitulation to Tottenham back in Nov. I swore then that while McLeish was in charge I would not be back. It has killed me to see the destruction of my beloved football team but that is what has happened. We deserve to go down as Wolves apart, we are the worst team in the premier league by a country mile. Get out NOW Mr McLeish & let Kevin Macdonald see if he can rescue something out of this dire mess
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Score: 0 upthevilla90
1:40 PM on 25/4/2012
hoping we can stay up allbeit by other teams losing around us cause i cant see another 3 points for us this season then it would be sensible if we got rid of him in the summer i dont see anyone whos gonna improve this team in the last three games jus look at what happened to wolves
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Score: 0 duck
1:41 PM on 25/4/2012
Sacking is to good for him a rope is what's needed
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Score: 1 wembley57er
1:44 PM on 25/4/2012
I dont care where he came from and I gave him a chance. The result a shambles. Players played when out of form, in the wrong positions, just because HE bought them, and finally no tactics apparent nor passionate leadership shown!

After over 60 years of active support, enough is enough. The club rang me last week, as one of their longest holding season ticket holders, they asked am I renewing - my reply, if McClown stays, I go! I go to enjoy my football, not to be depressed week after week.
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Score: 0 MattyP
1:49 PM on 25/4/2012
As I said on another page....if we have to accept relegation in order to rid us of this clueless idiot and his cronies....then so be it.
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Score: 0 Cleef68
1:54 PM on 25/4/2012
A stupid question really. Still, I've put my tuppence worth in seeing as they were asking for it.

His position is now untenable. He will never win the Villa fans over. He has been given a whole season and failed.


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[paul_e]

Just had a bit of a nose on wikipedia to see if he is officially the worst manager in our history.

It turns out he isn't and can't be before next season.  However:

McLeish 38(9/15/14)
McNeill 41(9/15/17)

So if we lose the last 3 and end up going down he'll have exactly the same record as our worst manager of all time, given other similarities people have pointed out I think it's perfectly reasonable to be absolutely shitting ourselves now.