AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[Risso]

What he's using the Proud history slogan.

Jesus, I'm afraid to say I got totally suckered in on that one.

Yep, try this for size:

http://www.bsc.edu/communications/news/2011/bsc-proud-history.pdf

I bet he's at the college gridiron games exhorting the students to get behind "the lads" as well.

[villadelph]

His job is safe.

[pauliewalnuts]

What he's using the Proud history slogan.

Jesus, I'm afraid to say I got totally suckered in on that one.

Yep, try this for size:

http://www.bsc.edu/communications/news/2011/bsc-proud-history.pdf

I bet he's at the college gridiron games exhorting the students to get behind "the lads" as well.

That's unbelievable.

He'll be organising free coaches and scarves for some tedious American football fixture next.

[pauliewalnuts]

He even copied the Birmingham bit.

*shakes fist at sky*

[Risso]

He even copied the Birmingham bit.

*shakes fist at sky*

Look at the students in their T-shirts, shorts and flip flops.  We never had any of that in Selly Oak, let me tell you *affects look of deep sadness and betrayal*

[OzVilla]

I could've just punched the screen when I saw his gurning face - no mention of eventual asset striping i see though.  They'll keep those peskey students.

So it really was just an empty slogan after all that could be trotted out in a one size fits all forums type of way. 

Being so far away I don't get the feel of the atmosphere you fellas get at VP but now I'm sharing the feeling of being so utterly let down.
 

[ozzjim]

It all becomes very hollow when you see that doesn't it. Wonder if the Browns have the same!

[Fergal]

Proud history is all we have left at the moment.

[mr woo]

He won't be sacked.

 And why?

The same reason he hasnt been sacked in his life, despite his questionable career record. And that is.....and he knows this...is if you avoid defeat, and especially heavy losses,  it's hard for people to pull the trigger. And it's hard for chairmen to point the finger, because there's always the dodgy penalty, the unfortunate injury or the sheer bad luck you can shift the blame onto.

Only some of us see the bigger picture. The failure to make hay while the sun shone will be our undoing.

And that is not the fault of injuries, it is not the fault of a referee and over 38 games it is not a case of bad luck.

However, it may well be the fault of an American , a custodian, or his trusted business minded employees, who rejected the advice of a few hundred brummie 'thugs' (oh, the silent majority, a phrase used when it suits) because they thought they knew better.


Well guess what. We were right. You were wrong. You have two choices- sack him or sell up.

[Brian Taylor]

A mate put £50 on a Chelski draw tonight @ 20-1 and I put several Villa wins at various prices. I thought he was mad but I will be checking into Rubery tomorrow..Goodbye Mac and thanks for all the fish!

[adrenachrome]

Edit

* Bless his cotton socks *

[tomd2103]

He won't be sacked.

 And why?

The same reason he hasnt been sacked in his life, despite his questionable career record. And that is.....and he knows this...is if you avoid defeat, and especially heavy losses,  it's hard for people to pull the trigger. And it's hard for chairmen to point the finger, because there's always the dodgy penalty, the unfortunate injury or the sheer bad luck you can shift the blame onto.

Only some of us see the bigger picture. The failure to make hay while the sun shone will be our undoing.

And that is not the fault of injuries, it is not the fault of a referee and over 38 games it is not a case of bad luck.

However, it may well be the fault of an American , a custodian, or his trusted business minded employees, who rejected the advice of a few hundred brummie 'thugs' (oh, the silent majority, a phrase used when it suits) because they thought they knew better.


Well guess what. We were right. You were wrong. You have two choices- sack him or sell up.

It reminds me of the old argument of symptom vs. cause.  For me McLeish is a symptom not the real cause of the mess we find ourselves in.  The real cause is the terrible decisions made by the heirarchy over a couple of years and their seeming lack of understanding when it comes to running a football club.  They are the ones who appointed McLeish after all, despite his poor record in the Premiership.  In many cases of symptom and cause, we tend to focus on the symptom as it is often seen as an easy fix and ignore the fundamental changes that are required.  Whose to say if McLeish goes, we won't see an even poorer appointment.  McLeish deserves blame for our predicament, but we cannot lose sight of who appointed him in the first place and some of the other decisions that have been made.

[adam#1]

Thoroughly agree with the symptom argument. We rode well when the American arrived due to (whisper it quietly) a good football appointment by Ellis - O'Neill, and someone (RL) prepared to splash cash over a finite amount of time. Once we'd failed to achieve his game plan of CL football in that time, then the money stopped and it was balance the books time by people who have less understanding of the game than any of us on this site. It was always going to go pear shaped once the money dried up. We're back to a worse situation than we were with Deadly Doug. At less he understood football whilst being tight with cash and out of touch with the fans. This lot are tight with cash, have shown that their plastic way of dealing with fans is, well, plastic, and that they don't understand football.

Bring back Doug!

[Fergal]

Has the ****** been sacked yet?

[adam#1]

What Doug? I think he's been sacked.