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Offline ozzjim

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3660 on: April 17, 2012, 01:34:08 PM »
It will be very interesting to see if the crowd are a lot more hostile to him this weekend if we go behind.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3661 on: April 17, 2012, 01:37:36 PM »
It will be very interesting to see if the crowd are a lot more hostile to him this weekend if we go behind.

I actually think the most interesting thing regarding the crowd will be to see how people behave with regard to McLeish but alongside how they react to the return of MON at the same time.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3662 on: April 17, 2012, 02:31:59 PM »
It just means that there'll be an utter cock in both dugouts for a change, instead of only ours!

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3663 on: April 17, 2012, 02:35:29 PM »
It will be very interesting to see if the crowd are a lot more hostile to him this weekend if we go behind.

I actually think the most interesting thing regarding the crowd will be to see how people behave with regard to McLeish but alongside how they react to the return of MON at the same time.
I won't be booing O'Pubehead, I don't fancy being taken to court.
He's probably got spotters in with the crowd.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3664 on: April 17, 2012, 02:44:56 PM »
Isn't it amazing how so many more fans are now finally agreeing what a waste of space AM is, anyone with an ounce of football know how knew that it would not work. Putting aside where he came from etc he is an absolute rubbish coach and the stats do not lie.
You seem to be under the impression that AM was everybodys first choice manager and we were all delighted to have him.It's called giving somebody a chance because we have no choice.So I wouldn't say it was amazing we've come to this conclusion.If only we could have been as wise as you from the beginning,none of this would have happened

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3665 on: April 17, 2012, 02:50:46 PM »
Warley, your post was amazed me.  Amazed me enough to start liking McLeish now just to spite you.  I met him a few months back at Birmingham airport.  Really nice guy and as I have always been told, the sign or a trustworthy person, a good firm handshake.  I guess thats pretty much the case for the defence used up

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3666 on: April 17, 2012, 02:54:04 PM »
Warley, your post was amazed me.  Amazed me enough to start liking McLeish now just to spite you.  I met him a few months back at Birmingham airport.  Really nice guy and as I have always been told, the sign or a trustworthy person, a good firm handshake.  I guess thats pretty much the case for the defence used up
How likeable he is was a big factor in his appointment.
He came across as being very friendly and personable in the Directors lounge Post 5-1 walloping.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3667 on: April 17, 2012, 03:18:56 PM »
I don't think anybody doubts McLeish's sincerity. I think he's one of the most decent blokes we've had in the hotseat in a long while.

I just don't think he's up to the job, as evidenced with how close we are to the trap door with five games to go.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2012, 03:30:16 PM by Irish villain »

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3668 on: April 17, 2012, 03:28:48 PM »
I don't think anybody doubts McLeish's sincerity. I think he's one of the most decent blokes we've had in the hotseat in a logn while.

I just don['t think he's up to the job, as evidenced with how close we are to the trap door with five games to go.


I don't know he seems incapable of accepting responsibility and seems to shift the blame a lot.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3669 on: April 17, 2012, 03:32:16 PM »
I don't think anybody doubts McLeish's sincerity. I think he's one of the most decent blokes we've had in the hotseat in a logn while.

I just don['t think he's up to the job, as evidenced with how close we are to the trap door with five games to go.


I don't know he seems incapable of accepting responsibility and seems to shift the blame a lot.

He's had to work with a depleted squad, had to sell our best players and got to reinvest only a fraction of the cost. He isn't to blame for all our problems. He's just not getting the most out of what he's been left with. We should have been a safe 8th to 12th side this year.

Not many managers come out and say they haven't got the most out of their resources. Incompetent yes, overall a decent bloke? On balance I'd say yes.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3670 on: April 17, 2012, 03:41:26 PM »
It will be very interesting to see if the crowd are a lot more hostile to him this weekend if we go behind.

I actually think the most interesting thing regarding the crowd will be to see how people behave with regard to McLeish but alongside how they react to the return of MON at the same time.

I think it'll be similar to when we were going for the title against Man U, and Man City came to town.  When we scored, some of them cheered, and they then kicked off amongst themselves for cheering a City defeat.  Think it'll be a similar atmosphere to that.  Some people will genuinely be pleased to see O'Neill back.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3671 on: April 17, 2012, 03:44:33 PM »
I have never met the man but, can a really good football manager ever be a really nice guy? Don't they all need a ruthless streak to be truly effective? When I was a manager in a big industrial organisation, my new director said at our first meeting that he was there to be respected not necessarily liked. Just an observation.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3672 on: April 17, 2012, 03:47:25 PM »
I have never met the man but, can a really good football manager ever be a really nice guy? Don't they all need a ruthless streak to be truly effective? When I was a manager in a big industrial organisation, my new director said at our first meeting that he was there to be respected not necessarily liked. Just an observation.

Graham Taylor, Bobby Robson are the only 2 i can think of right now that were nice guys and good football managers

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3673 on: April 17, 2012, 03:55:02 PM »
Isn't it amazing how so many more fans are now finally agreeing what a waste of space AM is, anyone with an ounce of football know how knew that it would not work. Putting aside where he came from etc he is an absolute rubbish coach and the stats do not lie.
You seem to be under the impression that AM was everybodys first choice manager and we were all delighted to have him.It's called giving somebody a chance because we have no choice.So I wouldn't say it was amazing we've come to this conclusion.If only we could have been as wise as you from the beginning,none of this would have happened

Not that he's saying "I told you so".  He swore he wouldn't do that.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3674 on: April 17, 2012, 04:14:31 PM »
Isn't it amazing how so many more fans are now finally agreeing what a waste of space AM is, anyone with an ounce of football know how knew that it would not work. Putting aside where he came from etc he is an absolute rubbish coach and the stats do not lie.
You seem to be under the impression that AM was everybodys first choice manager and we were all delighted to have him.It's called giving somebody a chance because we have no choice.So I wouldn't say it was amazing we've come to this conclusion.If only we could have been as wise as you from the beginning,none of this would have happened

All that would have happened is everyone would have been REALLY REALLY ANGRY for much longer.  As you say, we didn’t choose him but he deserved a chance to make it work.  It’s the same with the people who are 100% sure we’ll get relegated.  They might be right but I cannot be arse seriously contemplating that idea when there is also evidence to suggest we will stay up.  I’m saving my anxiety and sadness for when it is needed.  *IF* it is needed.

 


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