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Offline KevinGage

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3510 on: April 16, 2012, 03:54:23 AM »
Are our midfield options much worse than Swansea, Norwich, Everton, Fulham and so forth? 

I don't think so, yet we have consistently looked 2nd best in that dept for a fair chunk of our games this season. Regardless of the opposition.  Less possession than Stoke at home this season tells it's own story. How many sides have that particular privilege? 

I will concede that some of our lot might not make it, or might not hit the heights we hoped/expected.   Delph and Bannan immediately spring to mind there.   But I'd prefer it if we've exhausted every avenue testing that theory, and that it's actually a good manager who decides they're not up to it.

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3511 on: April 16, 2012, 07:01:16 AM »

The best way is to simply not go, not renew your season tickets, then Lerner and Co. will take note, but judging at the speed some on here have been renewing season tickets with at least one section of the ground sold out already, that seems to be a bit of a long shot! Their choice of course, not questioning them, but if people are happy parting with their money to watch what's on offer why will Lerner care?

Some people are just fans though. They know it's awful but that's not the point.
Why do people go to watch teams like Portsmouth or Bradford or Plymouth or Luton or Darlington? They have all had times much worse than us recently and in some cases it's still going downhill, but they turn up, they watch and they support because they are fans.
I sometimes think we have been a bit spoiled by our continuous membership of the Premier League since football began, as soon as it looks like it's going a bit pear-shaped we all start looking for the cyanide pills!
As i've said before, people shell out their hard earned money to watch the games and it's not cheap (as you so often used to point out on The General's thread). If I was getting comps from the club, I might feel differently.
People have every right to complain when they're being served up the dross that we've had this season.

I'm sure the supporters of those teams you mention above like to have a good old piss and moan.

Offline midnite

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3512 on: April 16, 2012, 07:10:47 AM »
The thing that struck me the most about yesterday was after the first goal, their heads went. After 6 mins we looked lost. By te second goal our players were completely gone. Shoulders were slumped and they all looked like they wanted the final whistle to blow there and then. By knew what was coming like rabbit in headlights.

McLeish has nothing up his sleeve to get these guys motivated. He tired to look good for the cameras with lots of pointing and gesturing from the dug out but it never works as the players seem to look at him confused and the pointing never changes from the first to the last minute of the game. Of every single game this season.

Offline David_Nab

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3513 on: April 16, 2012, 08:17:34 AM »
Qpr last week a man down held onto the ball a lot better than we did yesterday ,there is a lack of composure throughout the team.You could put it down to a young team but its more McLeish tatics.
Curtis Davies said under Houghton blues play less direct ..its his tatics killing us

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3514 on: April 16, 2012, 08:21:35 AM »
Hughton. HUGHTON.

His name is HUGHTON

Thanks for listening.

Offline WA Villan

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3515 on: April 16, 2012, 08:41:39 AM »
Good manager that Houghton. smiley

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3516 on: April 16, 2012, 08:48:21 AM »
Are our midfield options much worse than Swansea, Norwich, Everton, Fulham and so forth? 

I don't think so, yet we have consistently looked 2nd best in that dept for a fair chunk of our games this season. Regardless of the opposition.  Less possession than Stoke at home this season tells it's own story. How many sides have that particular privilege? 

I will concede that some of our lot might not make it, or might not hit the heights we hoped/expected.   Delph and Bannan immediately spring to mind there.   But I'd prefer it if we've exhausted every avenue testing that theory, and that it's actually a good manager who decides they're not up to it.

That's the knub of it. We have a better team / squad than our position suggests, yet here we are - not safe with a few games to go. No way should we be talking about where we can pick up points to make us safe. We should be talking about securing a Europa spot but McCheesyhelmet has got us where we are.

Offline Phil from the upper holte

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3517 on: April 16, 2012, 08:50:58 AM »
For once I'd like to have seen Savage on as he slated him yesterday on 5 live

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3518 on: April 16, 2012, 09:57:44 AM »
 I've just reread this article and thought I'd put it here,as it does give me a little hope that he might be fucked off at the end of the season As we are miles awy from what is stated here
Europe still the target, says Aston Villa chief executive

Chief executive Paul Faulkner insists Aston Villa are on course to qualify for Europe this season.

Alex McLeish's side sit eighth in the Premier League, seven points off Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal after winning one of their last five games.

"It's not easy but I believe it's do-able this year," Faulkner told the Birmingham Mail  . "We've got a lot of ambition.




"Being in Europe is important psychologically for Villa."

The West Midlands club won the European Cup in 1982 but this season is the first in four years they have not competed in the Uefa Cup or Europa League.

Unless a club who finish in the top four of the Premier League win the FA Cup or League Cup, only the fifth-placed side in the top-flight qualify for the Europa League.

And Faulkner added: "Europe sits there as a goal and this year that would be our goal. That's what we want to try to achieve.

"The Premier League is very tough but Aston Villa is a great club and we should be up there challenging at the top of the league. We should be there pushing for Europe.

"That's got to be the goal and that should always be the goal for a club like Villa.

"I really do think that, if we can put a good run together, that we've got a good chance"

Faulkner insists Villa's American owner, Randy Lerner, is keen to reach the top four and qualify for the Champions League.

The only English clubs to win the European Cup are Villa, Manchester United, Liverpool and Nottingham Forest.

And Faulkner added: "We're still one of only four English clubs to win the European Cup. We want to be experiencing those European nights.

"I know I want that back. I know Randy Lerner wants that back.


Offline Rick_avfc

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3519 on: April 16, 2012, 09:59:34 AM »
Im hoping that the day we are officially safe in the PL that PF and RL decide to part coming with McClueless!  really hope this happens.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3520 on: April 16, 2012, 10:00:26 AM »
Zogg - that article really bols my piss. If our f ing CEO is saying that only a few months back and that's our boards aims this year then how the hell is the ginger one still in a job!?
I'm going to copy the above and email Paul Faulkner and see if he can answer/respond/follow on from that

Jesus wept

Offline Rick_avfc

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3521 on: April 16, 2012, 10:03:34 AM »
I keep hearing that people are e-mailing Paul Faulkner but does he actually reply? Has anyone received any communication from him in relation to their e-mails?

I cant seem him acting on any email he receives.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3522 on: April 16, 2012, 10:06:08 AM »
Zogg - that article really bols my piss. If our f ing CEO is saying that only a few months back and that's our boards aims this year then how the hell is the ginger one still in a job!?
I'm going to copy the above and email Paul Faulkner and see if he can answer/respond/follow on from that

Jesus wept
Not long ago there wasn't many points between 15th and 7th so matbe they still thought it was doable if we put a good run together. It's too late to sack him now but it has given me alittle hope that he may be gone at the end of the season.Fingers crossed

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3523 on: April 16, 2012, 10:10:39 AM »

As i've said before, people shell out their hard earned money to watch the games and it's not cheap (as you so often used to point out on The General's thread). If I was getting comps from the club, I might feel differently.
People have every right to complain when they're being served up the dross that we've had this season.

I'm sure the supporters of those teams you mention above like to have a good old piss and moan.

I'm sure they do, but that isn't the point I'm making.
I was responding to the poster who basically said that he didn't understand why people are still forking out the cash to watch us. And I said it's because they are fans of the club. I thought you would understand Fletch, after all, as you say, it's costing you a small fortune but you are there every game and will no doubt, circumstances allowing, be there next season too. There must be a reason why you keep on doing it to yourself!

 By the way, that's the second time you have replied to one of my posts and mentioned complimentary tickets, are you suggesting I'm freeloading or something? Only freebie I've had in a long time was Swansea this season and that was a kind gesture from a ST holder on here, not a comp from the club.
 

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3524 on: April 16, 2012, 10:21:49 AM »
Wasnt there a game at the end of DOL's reign at Arsenal where we were a similar gutless shambles and were hammered? DOL spent time at the end joking with Arsenal fans and taking photos. Remember reading an article on the game afterwards that said if AVFC had any respect left they would sack him in the morning.

That's where we are at now again. 6 years later.

It's obvious McLeish knows the game is up for him. He will never manage in the EPL again after this season. If he had any interest in staying he wouldn't be coming out with that shite. If anything he is being clever and trying to force a sacking with a nice wedge heading his way for the privilege

 


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