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Offline Ad@m

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3330 on: April 13, 2012, 08:06:30 PM »
Lets just hope our American owner has the same instincts as the Liverpool owner as it looks as though the knives are out and all patience has gone after a "shite" season (fookin superb compared to ours??)

I'm not sure many people would class spending £100m to be 3 points ahead of Norwich at this point is 'fookin superb'.  Dalglish has been just as shite as McLeish but started as a folk hero round there whereas AML wasn't wanted in the first place by the vast majority of Villa fans.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3331 on: April 13, 2012, 08:26:17 PM »
The Liverpool owners have been struck by the Liverpool disease, acute self regard.   The Liverpool myth cannot be threatened by one of it's legendary players being seen as anything short of a brilliant manager so they turned to the nearest scapegoat.   The same has happened and will continue to happen to Liverpool under Dalglish as happened to the England rugby team under Martin Johnson.   They will self destruct.    There is no connection between the ability to play a game and to coach it well.   They are two totally opposed skills.   Dalglish was the one who should have gone and he should have had the decency to walk rather than let somebody else carry the can.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3332 on: April 13, 2012, 08:32:58 PM »
The Liverpool owners have been struck by the Liverpool disease, acute self regard.   The Liverpool myth cannot be threatened by one of it's legendary players being seen as anything short of a brilliant manager so they turned to the nearest scapegoat.   The same has happened and will continue to happen to Liverpool under Dalglish as happened to the England rugby team under Martin Johnson.   They will self destruct.    There is no connection between the ability to play a game and to coach it well.   They are two totally opposed skills.   Dalglish was the one who should have gone and he should have had the decency to walk rather than let somebody else carry the can.

Its that being caught between a rock and hard place thing, my feeling is where Dalglish is concerned is he would quit if it got to messy.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3333 on: April 14, 2012, 12:20:27 AM »
I find it strange that KKK has come out and said he selected the players, the reason for dumping Comoli must be something to do with how he handled the negotiations, they paid way too much for Carol Downing Hendrson. Lpool are in the same situation MON put us in.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3334 on: April 14, 2012, 12:32:48 AM »
I find it strange that KKK has come out and said he selected the players, the reason for dumping Comoli must be something to do with how he handled the negotiations, they paid way too much for Carol Downing Hendrson. Lpool are in the same situation MON put us in.

But I can see them continuing to spend big. Profligacy would be more damaging to us, they can probably take the hit. Bastids.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3335 on: April 14, 2012, 12:37:47 AM »
I find it strange that KKK has come out and said he selected the players, the reason for dumping Comoli must be something to do with how he handled the negotiations, they paid way too much for Carol Downing Hendrson. Lpool are in the same situation MON put us in.

But I can see them continuing to spend big. Profligacy would be more damaging to us, they can probably take the hit. Bastids.
Not sure that the group that bought Lppol has that amount of cash, thier reputation is based on building prudently, they knew that they had to spend to transform Lpool from mid table to top 4 and they have wasted the the initial and largest investment they will make.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3336 on: April 14, 2012, 01:21:55 AM »
Now as a villa fan five years old now nearly sixty seven have seen the good bad and the good times at our great club.But what Mc Moron and Lerner are doing to the club is down right ugly.and if we go down can only hope that the future is not going be like that at,Port Vale as it could happen if there is no change in management or ownership.So my vote would be AM should go now.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3337 on: April 14, 2012, 01:39:10 AM »
I can see a situation where AMc leaves at the end of the season. 

Ultimately, if Villa stay up then to the outside world it will be a “par” performance considering the players who left, therefore he will maintain his reputation.  However, if he is given another season (and maybe some money) and the results/performances are the same then his standing in the game will suffer and his risks never getting another management job.

I can see him leaving under mutual consent as he can blame the fans/circumstances.  He’ll get a pay off and crucially stand a chance of getting another gig at someone like Wolves or Rangers.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3338 on: April 14, 2012, 02:03:17 AM »
I'm looking at who he's bought.  Not too shabby, so far. 

I have or had, an issue with the way he used subs.  Far too late, but recently that has got a lot better and the subs have made a real impact.

If the team or some of them are ignoring tactics and 'defending' (ie hanging around) too far back then the sooner those individuals move on the better, for the club.
I think he needs to show what he can do with a full pre-season. 

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3339 on: April 14, 2012, 02:10:46 AM »
I'm looking at who he's bought.  Not too shabby, so far. 

I have or had, an issue with the way he used subs.  Far too late, but recently that has got a lot better and the subs have made a real impact.

If the team or some of them are ignoring tactics and 'defending' (ie hanging around) too far back then the sooner those individuals move on the better, for the club.
I think he needs to show what he can do with a full pre-season. 



no please .....

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3340 on: April 14, 2012, 02:28:37 AM »
I'm looking at who he's bought.  Not too shabby, so far. 

I have or had, an issue with the way he used subs.  Far too late, but recently that has got a lot better and the subs have made a real impact.

If the team or some of them are ignoring tactics and 'defending' (ie hanging around) too far back then the sooner those individuals move on the better, for the club.
I think he needs to show what he can do with a full pre-season. 



no please .....

Which bit?

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3341 on: April 14, 2012, 02:36:30 AM »
I'm looking at who he's bought.  Not too shabby, so far. 

I have or had, an issue with the way he used subs.  Far too late, but recently that has got a lot better and the subs have made a real impact.

If the team or some of them are ignoring tactics and 'defending' (ie hanging around) too far back then the sooner those individuals move on the better, for the club.
I think he needs to show what he can do with a full pre-season. 



no please .....

Which bit?

The bit about having a full pre-season I think.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3342 on: April 14, 2012, 09:38:27 AM »
To be honest as much as I hate the 'we don't give him a chance because he's from Blose' bollocks. If he leaves and then blames it on that I don't care, just as long as he leaves.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3343 on: April 14, 2012, 10:29:50 AM »
I'm prepared to let him stay for one more season


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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3344 on: April 14, 2012, 10:39:40 AM »
I'm looking at who he's bought.  Not too shabby, so far. 

I have or had, an issue with the way he used subs.  Far too late, but recently that has got a lot better and the subs have made a real impact.

If the team or some of them are ignoring tactics and 'defending' (ie hanging around) too far back then the sooner those individuals move on the better, for the club.
I think he needs to show what he can do with a full pre-season. 


Given's done OK, but we've had nothing like value for money from Hutton or N'Zogbia.  Also, Given isn't really an improvement on Friedel, but has cost us dosh.

 


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