AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[Tom Sawyer]

Apparently Martinez has regrets about not taking the Villa job. So do we mate, so do we.

According to who, where, link, quotes?

Sorry, just got a bit excited.

Mailonline

[Monty]

Apparently Martinez has regrets about not taking the Villa job. So do we mate, so do we.

According to who, where, link, quotes?

Sorry, just got a bit excited.

Mailonline

Ah. Less excited.

[pauliewalnuts]

Christ, things really are bad if we're hankering after Martinez.

The decision to go after Martinez was perplexing, the decision to go for McLeish was more perplexing, but for me the decision to jump from Martinez to McLeish was the weirdest one.

There's just no continuity of thought in going for both of those managers. Like saying, "I can't decide what to have for my lunch today, I've got it down to a ham sandwich or a large bowl of custard"

[Legion]

There was also McLaren to consider aswell. Was he pre- or post- Martinez?

[pauliewalnuts]

There was also McLaren to consider aswell. Was he pre- or post- Martinez?

I reckon they started with PL experienced managers, top of the alphabet down.

[Percy McCarthy]

Yes, things are bad Fletch. If the finances are still shot to pieces, I could see the case for Martinez.

Could get the best out of N'Zogbia, and bring Diame, Rodellaga and Figueroa (sp)? with him for nowt.

[Clampy]

Christ, things really are bad if we're hankering after Martinez.

The decision to go after Martinez was perplexing, the decision to go for McLeish was more perplexing, but for me the decision to jump from Martinez to McLeish was the weirdest one.

There's just no continuity of thought in going for both of those managers. Like saying, "I can't decide what to have for my lunch today, I've got it down to a ham sandwich or a large bowl of custard"

I'm agreeing with you far too much today.

Strangely enough, as the season has wore on i've seen the logic of us wanting to get Martinez (and i was very set against it at the time) but like you said to then employ someone with a different mindset to how the game should be played (and someone with a worse track record) that was the puzzler.

If we did go back in for him (and i'm still in two minds about it), i'd be surprised if he turned us down again.

[Lamb_Stockmix]

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer anyone?

[JUAN PABLO]

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer anyone?

hes done alright but the league he is in , the teams are like average championship sides .

[Villanation]

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer anyone?

he's had good grounding but is he ready for the Premeirship.

[Nev]

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer anyone?

he's had good grounding but is he ready for the Premeirship.

If whiskey face writes a letter bigging him up he's a shoo in.

[Aston Manor]

One of the things that I really haven't enjoyed seeing in both Liverpool and Stoke games is McLeish's reaction in the last 5 minutes in standing there clenched fist pumping his heart urging his players to show fight, bottle, and to dig in. now I know on the outset this my not look like anything other than a reason to try and have a go at McLeish over anything but I think it shows where he is going wrong as a coach/manager.

The problem with youth football in the UK is that they play competitively too early with the emphasis on winning games. Up and down the country parents watch their 8 year-olds play and you'll here yells of 'Get rid of it' when their kids team is holding a slender lead.

We are not teaching children how to play football. Its different at Villa and the academy and it has been noted in the press of how we work with youngsters and how we 'teach' them the game before winning and losing.

The John Terry, Stuart Pearce, Neil Ruddock heart on your sleeve type of English player is becoming more marginalised, thankfully, as it is becoming more and more obvious that its cool heads and ability that is required when defending not shouting and pumping your heart. That is 1980s English football.

My big problem is that McLeish and his coaching staff are the top of the coaching tree at Villa. What are we teaching our kids now? that when you get into the first team forget coolness under pressure, forget passing, just get stuck in? Just run hard and fight for your mates. All admirable in itself, but not for a progressive club like Villa teaching the 'European' way.

Is that what we've got to look forward to? What the kids have learnt as youngsters to either be knocked out of them the older they get? Or, even worse the players get dumped because they are not in the McLeish mold? What does that say for the coaches in the youth set-up, and the overall set-up  itself.

That pumped fist worried me no end.

[PaulWinch again]

Well Martinez's team is having a go against an 'elite' club and they've done ok.

[ozzjim]

I think he is a decent manager actually, but gets very odd results. He would be a lot better than Eck. If he did leave Wigan this summer and was available, I would be much happier if the board took the hit and changed to him than kept with Eck.

[PaulWinch again]

I think he is a decent manager actually, but gets very odd results. He would be a lot better than Eck. If he did leave Wigan this summer and was available, I would be much happier if the board took the hit and changed to him than kept with Eck.

I completely agree. Martinez cannot possibly be worse than Mcleish and he tries to get his team playing football, which I'd like to actually witness. Also unless Mcleish picks up a win in the next three games, we are in big trouble.