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Offline Somniloquism

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3090 on: April 09, 2012, 11:47:07 PM »

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3091 on: April 09, 2012, 11:55:10 PM »
The lowest crowd of the season for a league game, probably the lowest since Randy has been chairman, must make him understand that having McLeish as manager is bad for business.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3092 on: April 10, 2012, 12:01:02 AM »
The lowest crowd of the season for a league game, probably the lowest since Randy has been chairman, must make him understand that having McLeish as manager is bad for business.

Yes, I don't recall a crowd as low as this since Lerner took over.  We had a few sub 30K crowds in the last days of Ellis/O'Leary, but you could hear how empty the ground was today.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3093 on: April 10, 2012, 12:13:11 AM »
There has been an ominous silence from the owner as regards the future of the club and the manager that's going to be in charge of that future. To me that suggests they believe everything is ticking along just well enough to justify inaction. So on behalf of us all, let me clarify the situation

Dear Villa,

We all make mistakes. Sometimes, nobody notices. Other times, it turns out to be a huge balls-up. It's how you learn from those mistakes that makes you stronger. It's painfully obvious to all that hiring our current manager was a severe error. In all aspects, it has been a backward step. We are two seasons into a collective nervous breakdown and it will go into a third unless you take a good look at what's currently wrong. There will be no hard feelings, no animosity to our current boss if he's quietly paid off and told to find another job. This is the way of the world: if you are not up to scratch, somebody who is deserves a chance. But start planning now, for all our sakes.  Sub thirty thousand crowds, constant barracking from the stands, protests and a huge drop in revenue...or positive action.

Your choice, not ours...

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3094 on: April 10, 2012, 12:17:10 AM »
The lowest crowd of the season for a league game, probably the lowest since Randy has been chairman, must make him understand that having McLeish as manager is bad for business.

If things were buzzing at VP then I would have expected a gate of 38,000 today. At the start of the match we all thought that there were about 28,000 in the ground and were surprised at 30,100. Today's game was category A, which is the most expensive so I reckon that at an average of £25 per ticket, the 10,000 absentees have cost the club £250,000. Multiply that by 19 home games in a season and the club is losing £4-5 million in gate revenue from fans who are no longer willing to waste their money watching Mcleish's shambles.

Add that to the loss of income from finishing lower in the table and Mcleish looks like a very expensive option. Plus, I can see Season Ticket sales being dire if he's still around.

If Faulkner and Lerner are unable to identify what damage Mcleish is doing in terms of football then that's bad enough, but if they allow the club to continue to bleed income due to this man then I just don't know what it will take for them to see sense. My one hope is that they will realise that Mcleish is a financial disaster for the club and decide to cut their losses.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3095 on: April 10, 2012, 12:25:19 AM »
That is a major factor and was mentioned by some at the start of the Austerity measures, and especially after the summer sales and managerial appointment. We were paying too much for players for the crowds of approx 38K we were getting. We have sold some of the higher earners and will be getting rid of others but by next season we could be having crowds 10k down. Will we have to make further cuts or will the board splash out to get fans back again?

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3096 on: April 10, 2012, 12:30:02 AM »
I get the feeling that if only he could hurry up and get us safe, there would be no holding back from the poor sods who have kept their true feelings hidden so far this season out of loyalty and wanting to support the club.

Offline PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3097 on: April 10, 2012, 12:30:54 AM »
I looked at taking the lad (he's 6) today - cheapest tickets in the ground was £24 for me, £16 for him. - £40 to watch two blokes spend the majority of their time wiping the ball on the inside of their shirt combined with grappling at every opportunity and our lot having no idea what to do about it - No thanks

It's been shit all season, i'm not forking out that kind of money to watch that shit that's served up every week and won't consider going until McTwat has gone. If he stays, he will destroy all of those kids coming through.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3098 on: April 10, 2012, 12:32:40 AM »
I get the feeling that if only he could hurry up and get us safe, there would be no holding back from the poor sods who have kept their true feelings hidden so far this season out of loyalty and wanting to support the club.


I noticed even the booing at full time was half hearted. The level of apathy surrounding this man is a wonder.

Offline hawkeye

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3099 on: April 10, 2012, 12:37:48 AM »
The Financial imact of keeping Mcliesh i believe will be enough to see him gone, even Rndy and Faulkner can do maths.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3100 on: April 10, 2012, 12:50:17 AM »
And the ground looks so much worse with those bright blue seats. It looked cavernous in there. Like I said somewhere else, it will cost the club a lot more to keep him than fire him and Grant. Not just in turnstile receipts but also with everything that stems from following the club.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3101 on: April 10, 2012, 12:55:12 AM »
The lowest crowd of the season for a league game, probably the lowest since Randy has been chairman, must make him understand that having McLeish as manager is bad for business.

If things were buzzing at VP then I would have expected a gate of 38,000 today. At the start of the match we all thought that there were about 28,000 in the ground and were surprised at 30,100. Today's game was category A, which is the most expensive so I reckon that at an average of £25 per ticket, the 10,000 absentees have cost the club £250,000. Multiply that by 19 home games in a season and the club is losing £4-5 million in gate revenue from fans who are no longer willing to waste their money watching Mcleish's shambles.

Add that to the loss of income from finishing lower in the table and Mcleish looks like a very expensive option. Plus, I can see Season Ticket sales being dire if he's still around.

If Faulkner and Lerner are unable to identify what damage Mcleish is doing in terms of football then that's bad enough, but if they allow the club to continue to bleed income due to this man then I just don't know what it will take for them to see sense. My one hope is that they will realise that Mcleish is a financial disaster for the club and decide to cut their losses.

Well said Jembob, we all can see it but the successful millionaire businessmen cannot!

Offline hawkeye

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3102 on: April 10, 2012, 12:57:13 AM »
And the ground looks so much worse with those bright blue seats. It looked cavernous in there. Like I said somewhere else, it will cost the club a lot more to keep him than fire him and Grant. Not just in turnstile receipts but also with everything that stems from following the club.
Hi TV It looked about 26000 , including about 500 sturkies. When it came up 30,100 there were a few murmurs of disbelief around me.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3103 on: April 10, 2012, 01:53:09 AM »
And the ground looks so much worse with those bright blue seats. It looked cavernous in there. Like I said somewhere else, it will cost the club a lot more to keep him than fire him and Grant. Not just in turnstile receipts but also with everything that stems from following the club.
Hi TV It looked about 26000 , including about 500 sturkies. When it came up 30,100 there were a few murmurs of disbelief around me.

Hope all is well Rich. Is Doug doing the books again at the club fudging the attendance numbers? Under 30000 in the ground makes much more sense. I assume the official number includes season ticket holders whether they showed up or not. Whichever way you cut it, it's very alarming and revealing.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish?
« Reply #3104 on: April 10, 2012, 02:51:30 AM »
And the ground looks so much worse with those bright blue seats. It looked cavernous in there. Like I said somewhere else, it will cost the club a lot more to keep him than fire him and Grant. Not just in turnstile receipts but also with everything that stems from following the club.
Hi TV It looked about 26000 , including about 500 sturkies. When it came up 30,100 there were a few murmurs of disbelief around me.
That looks like 4000 S/T holders couldn't be arsed.If that doesn't wake Randy up christ knows what will.They will blame the weather.

 


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