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Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2880 on: April 05, 2012, 03:48:40 PM »
It's not pointless. A new manager (or even just the current one not being there) could inspire the team to the average performances needed to get a few points.

I agree it should have been done a while ago or better yet, he should never have been appointed. I dont blame him, I blame our board. He's a crap manager and has brought that consistency here. It all so very predictable.

Spot on.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2881 on: April 05, 2012, 03:53:07 PM »
Based on thier handling of Houllier and McLiesh if they sacked him now we  would be appointing a new manger some time in early July !!


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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2882 on: April 05, 2012, 03:55:03 PM »
Fine. Do that then. In the meantime, KMac and Sid can cope.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2883 on: April 05, 2012, 04:14:22 PM »
I quite agree ....especially as the squad we have left is mainly the youngsters or players who have come through the system.I doubt KMAC and co could do any worse at the very least the fans would fine thier voices.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2884 on: April 05, 2012, 04:39:31 PM »
He wouldn't do any worse. He'd probably do better. Now that half the current first team squad have come up through the youth ranks and reserves, Kevin has worked with them all, and he'd be ideal to manage them now. I honestly don't understand why, if the plan was to work with the players we have in house already, and operate with a selective transfer budget, we didn't appoint him anyway, rather than hiring one of the worst Premier League managers of all time.

At least the club could have made a clear statement about where we stand, our priorities and plans moving forward, and the majority of fans would have no doubt said: 'fair enough' and got behind KM right from the start, rather than being fed a series of totally inane press release comments.

Of course, if MacDonald didn't/doesn't want the job, that puts the skids on that right away.



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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2885 on: April 05, 2012, 05:16:36 PM »
If, and it’s a big if, we do sack McLeish then I wouldn’t mind seeing Solskjear. He is a bright young manager who I think is going to be a top manager in the future and I can’t believe he is being linked with the dingles.

Ferguson has said he can see Solskjear one day being the manager at Manure, although the last time Ferguson tipped a manager we ended up with McLeish.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2886 on: April 05, 2012, 05:22:12 PM »
I think writing to RL is a better idea.

Writing to any of them is a waste of paper and ink. Straight into the waste paper basket and if you're lucky they might get Edna the secretary to mail you out some kind of auto reply.

I reckon even the complimentary ones go straight in the bin, the only Manager I recall with the good grace to answer a letter was Sir Graham.

I got one back from Ron Saunders many moons ago, (another lost gem).

While not a letter, Brian Little did sign my copy of "Return of the Little Villan". I bought it at the club shop went over to reception and asked if they could get him to sign it. Went back a couple of days later and he had. Which was nice. 

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2887 on: April 05, 2012, 05:22:28 PM »
Ferguson has said he can see Solskjear one day being the manager at Manure, although the last time Ferguson tipped a manager we ended up with McLeish.
I wouldn't trust anything that ruddy faced arse head says.

He's previously raved about the abilities of Steve Bruce and Sam Allardyce.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2888 on: April 05, 2012, 05:24:03 PM »
Fine. Do that then. In the meantime, KMac and Sid can cope.

What if they don't want to? Didn't KMac say it wasn't for him last time?

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2889 on: April 05, 2012, 05:37:47 PM »
Ferguson has said he can see Solskjear one day being the manager at Manure, although the last time Ferguson tipped a manager we ended up with McLeish.
I wouldn't trust anything that ruddy faced arse head says.

He's previously raved about the abilities of Steve Bruce and Sam Allardyce.

I agree but Solskjear has done something those two have never done, He’s won a championship. I know people will say it’s only the Norwegian league but it’s still a decent achievement and it was Molde first ever title which was won in his first season.

I would like to see us go for a younger manager next who has something to prove and wants to achieve success rather than someone who just wants millions to spend and the fucks off when his told no or someone who although was a good manager was ill and had an obsession with the scousers or what we have got now a useless, delusional and negative twonk.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2890 on: April 05, 2012, 05:56:25 PM »
Fine. Do that then. In the meantime, KMac and Sid can cope.

What if they don't want to? Didn't KMac say it wasn't for him last time?

The writing was on the wall the way they pissed about with Kevin MacDonald when he stood up to take over when Scab O'Neill threw his toys out the pram. I do wonder if they've learned anything over the last 2 years, the thought of keeping McLeish on next season then deciding to sack him by Xmas will leave them in a similar situation of very few decent managers to choose from, really does scare me.

It was the wrong appointment, they failed to back him, results have been poor and revenue will most certainly fall next season should they keep him on. Add to that the lost PL prize money of £800,000 a place this season, you have to wonder what on earth Randy is thinking. The only real solution is for him to swallow his pride, admit he got it wrong and try again, hopefully without the same advisors he used the last time.

What a mess!

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2891 on: April 05, 2012, 08:42:28 PM »
My (wild) guess is that McLeish's mandate was to keep Villa in PL with a minimum of backing, for two or three seasons, until the financial mess was sorted out. After that, we could attract a better manager, and better players, as we would be to spend money again.

However, as McLeish may be on the verge of taking us down already in his first season, it would be madness to give him the job of keeping us up in another season of austerity. I think/hope that even Lerner realises this, and that McLeish will be given the boot at the end of the season.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2892 on: April 05, 2012, 09:06:35 PM »
I think Mazrim uses the killer word and that word is predictable.

All but a tiny handful of fantasists could see this coming the instant his appointment was made by a board of uncaring nincompoops.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2893 on: April 05, 2012, 11:01:18 PM »
My (wild) guess is that McLeish's mandate was to keep Villa in PL with a minimum of backing, for two or three seasons, until the financial mess was sorted out. After that, we could attract a better manager, and better players, as we would be to spend money again.

However, as McLeish may be on the verge of taking us down already in his first season, it would be madness to give him the job of keeping us up in another season of austerity. I think/hope that even Lerner realises this, and that McLeish will be given the boot at the end of the season.

Why pay £2m a year to someone who's job is to keep us ticking over and get us back on course to try again?  That's why I just can't believe his sole brief was to avoid relegation whilst letting the expenses clear themselves up.  It's also why i can't believe he won't be seen as having failed by the board. 

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2894 on: April 05, 2012, 11:34:08 PM »
The sad reality is that they could sack him and no one could really do worse with the squad we have, that is how bad he's doing.

 


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