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Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2745 on: April 03, 2012, 10:37:47 AM »
And still Lerner get's off lightly.

A bit different to the days when Herbert was here, if the pies were luke warm Ellis got slated.

Aye. Lerner out protest would be just as apt as the Mcleish ones

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2746 on: April 03, 2012, 10:39:09 AM »
And still Lerner get's off lightly.

A bit different to the days when Herbert was here, if the pies were luke warm Ellis got slated.

Very true- i camt understand why lerner and faulkner escape so much criticism- they along with mcleish are totally and utterly inept!

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2747 on: April 03, 2012, 10:45:02 AM »
I'd rather not have him here upsetting the Raspberries and sprinkling crystals on the pitch.

I also don't think our players would take too kindly to his methods.

'Ah Richard Dunne, I can see from your aura that you eat cake.'

There really is no need for that.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2748 on: April 03, 2012, 10:50:36 AM »
Remember the mails headline for god sake go dr jo?

Surely things now are even worse than they were at that time ?


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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2749 on: April 03, 2012, 11:37:20 AM »
I'd rather not have him here upsetting the Raspberries and sprinkling crystals on the pitch.

I also don't think our players would take too kindly to his methods.

'Ah Richard Dunne, I can see from your aura that you eat cake.'

There really is no need for that.

no need for what?

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2750 on: April 03, 2012, 11:45:50 AM »
I'd rather not have him here upsetting the Raspberries and sprinkling crystals on the pitch.

I also don't think our players would take too kindly to his methods.

'Ah Richard Dunne, I can see from your aura that you eat cake.'

There really is no need for that.

no need for what?

What you said in the first sentence.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2751 on: April 03, 2012, 01:25:08 PM »
And still Lerner get's off lightly.

A bit different to the days when Herbert was here, if the pies were luke warm Ellis got slated.

Very true- i camt understand why lerner and faulkner escape so much criticism- they along with mcleish are totally and utterly inept!

Lerner - maybe because he's contributed £240m to the club?  I'd say that buys you a bit of time.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2752 on: April 03, 2012, 01:29:56 PM »
And still Lerner get's off lightly.

A bit different to the days when Herbert was here, if the pies were luke warm Ellis got slated.

Very true- i camt understand why lerner and faulkner escape so much criticism- they along with mcleish are totally and utterly inept!

Lerner - maybe because he's contributed £240m to the club?  I'd say that buys you a bit of time.

If that 240 million includes the money he paid for buying the club, that's hardly "contributing it to the club", is it?

Our transfer decifict since 2006 is approx £65m. I appreciate he's injected funds for things like the training ground, and to cover the season on season deficit on running costs, but there certainly won't be £180m worth of that.

re protesting against the chairman - there's zero point protesting against / to remove a chairman when he owns the club. What's he supposed to do even if he does decide he wants out? Force someone to buy it off him? He can't magic a buyer even if he decides to sell.

Personally, even more than putting money in, I just want him to start running us with a bit more savvy, as the last two years, on a number (not all) of fronts, the club has looked like it is run by schoolchildren.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2012, 01:32:44 PM by pauliewalnuts »

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2753 on: April 03, 2012, 01:47:25 PM »
And still Lerner get's off lightly.

A bit different to the days when Herbert was here, if the pies were luke warm Ellis got slated.

Very true- i camt understand why lerner and faulkner escape so much criticism- they along with mcleish are totally and utterly inept!

Lerner - maybe because he's contributed £240m to the club?  I'd say that buys you a bit of time.

If that 240 million includes the money he paid for buying the club, that's hardly "contributing it to the club", is it?

£240m is money invested since he took control - ie excluding the amount he paid to HDE to acquire the club in the first place.  The vast majority of that money has gone on player wages - the transfer deficit only tells part of the story.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2754 on: April 03, 2012, 02:07:36 PM »
And still Lerner get's off lightly.

A bit different to the days when Herbert was here, if the pies were luke warm Ellis got slated.

Very true- i camt understand why lerner and faulkner escape so much criticism- they along with mcleish are totally and utterly inept!

Lerner - maybe because he's contributed £240m to the club?  I'd say that buys you a bit of time.

If that 240 million includes the money he paid for buying the club, that's hardly "contributing it to the club", is it?

£240m is money invested since he took control - ie excluding the amount he paid to HDE to acquire the club in the first place.  The vast majority of that money has gone on player wages - the transfer deficit only tells part of the story.

Some people think that the simple act of spending money makes him untouchable, I disagree.  He's wasted the vast majority of that for next to no return.  Now the club is worth less than when he took over, and he has appointed the worst manager imaginable. 

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2755 on: April 03, 2012, 02:17:47 PM »
 :P
And still Lerner get's off lightly.

A bit different to the days when Herbert was here, if the pies were luke warm Ellis got slated.

Very true- i camt understand why lerner and faulkner escape so much criticism- they along with mcleish are totally and utterly inept!

Lerner - maybe because he's contributed £240m to the club?  I'd say that buys you a bit of time.


and hes got a Villa tattoo you know

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2756 on: April 03, 2012, 02:20:45 PM »
As I've said before, Lerner has done nothing wrong as an owner,  he's provided ample funds and has overseen a number of projects to improve the club.

As a chairman he's failed completely as he has never identified the need for a 'football man' on the board.  This has led to numerous bad decisions that have all played a part in putting us into the position we're now facing.

Moving himself to a non exec board member and getting an experienced football guy in to replace himself would solve a lot of the problems.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2757 on: April 03, 2012, 03:36:07 PM »
As I've said before, Lerner has done nothing wrong as an owner,  he's provided ample funds and has overseen a number of projects to improve the club.

As a chairman he's failed completely as he has never identified the need for a 'football man' on the board.  This has led to numerous bad decisions that have all played a part in putting us into the position we're now facing.

Moving himself to a non exec board member and getting an experienced football guy in to replace himself would solve a lot of the problems.

You can't separate the post of chairman and owner like that, becuase essentially they're the same thing.  As owner and chairman, he's made a mess of the entire venture.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2758 on: April 03, 2012, 05:20:33 PM »
Mcliesh has been promoted beyond his abilities, but he is not a Coward

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2759 on: April 03, 2012, 05:33:16 PM »
Agree with Risso. Spurs have managed it because the joe Lewis has decided he isn't a man to run a football club so has levy doing it for him.

Randy has decided he as the owner can play chairman and it's not been much of a success

 


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