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Offline Legion

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2640 on: April 01, 2012, 07:50:36 PM »
Who would want him?

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2641 on: April 01, 2012, 07:55:02 PM »


He really needs to get the boot, the football is joyless and the negative defensive things that are supposed to be his forte, he's crap at.

In a nutshell, Soccer.

If his preferred method was in any way effective I'd just about wear it. Though I might be tempted to spoon my own eyeballs out.

But he has the team playing in a defensive straightjacket and they are STILL woeful at defending.  Get rid ASAP.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2642 on: April 01, 2012, 07:58:13 PM »


He really needs to get the boot, the football is joyless and the negative defensive things that are supposed to be his forte, he's crap at.

In a nutshell, Soccer.

If his preferred method was in any way effective I'd just about wear it. Though I might be tempted to spoon my own eyeballs out.

But he has the team playing in a defensive straightjacket and they are STILL woeful at defending.  Get rid ASAP.

For a team to be so negative yet still so poor in defence is puzzling but it seems Mcleish has got it down to a T.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2643 on: April 01, 2012, 07:59:02 PM »
I just hope and pray that Randy has a plan, going to wait till safe then dispatch him,frankly I would dispatch now!! He is no benefit to us with what he is doing out there and he clearly can't keep a team up he has tried and failed twice
Why can't the board see this!!!!! FFS!!!

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2644 on: April 01, 2012, 07:59:46 PM »
Perhaps they can, but our owner does not?

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2645 on: April 01, 2012, 08:03:25 PM »
I've never felt so sad being a Villa fan, 42years of it and this to me is the worse I've felt

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2646 on: April 01, 2012, 08:23:04 PM »
Ive started drinking in The Boot In Lapworth just to try and spot him and plead with him to resign.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2647 on: April 01, 2012, 08:24:33 PM »
I just hope and pray that Randy has a plan
Not a chance.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2648 on: April 01, 2012, 08:26:58 PM »
I think he used to, but it's all gone pear-shaped and he has possibly lost interest.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2649 on: April 01, 2012, 08:27:15 PM »
Im praying and hoping Rip Van

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2650 on: April 01, 2012, 08:29:45 PM »
Randys plan is to stay out of Birmingham and Cleveland as much as possible.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2651 on: April 01, 2012, 08:31:09 PM »
Nothing is constant Risso. The days weren't always dark under Doug. I bet Newcastle fans thought like you do under Ashley, that following relegation it would be hell forever. The one thing we know is that nothing stays the same. I'm optimistic that things will improve. Prospective managers will all come with the ambition to make us great again. That has always been one of the great selling points of Aston Villa.

We haven't managed to tempt anybody in a decent job the last two times, and things are now even worse on the financial front.  It's nice to look at things through rose-tinted spectacles when it comes to Villa, but the reality is we're not seen as a big club by most people any more. 

Not looking at through rose tinted glasses at all. Attracting Paul Lambert or a Brendan Rodgers or some up and comer from thr continent isn't the same as getting a Villas-Boas. We're certainly in the category below from that perspective. But to those types of manager we'd be an attractive option. Just because you are pissed off with the current board, doesn't mean those within the game would consider us toxic at all. We'll have to disagree on the Houllier appointment then as well. He was a very established name within the game and irrespective of how the hiring took place, it was still a good acheievement by the club given the season had already begun.

Houllier was in near retirement in the French FA, and hadn't had a proper job in three years.  If we were that attractive a proposition, why haven't we got one of those managers?  Even Martinez preferred to stay at Wigan.  The holy grail for newly promoted teams is staying up that first season.  Once they crack that, they can then set about improving things and spending money as Stoke have shown.  They would maybe come if there was a realistic chance of taking us back up the table, but even if McLeish leaves, all we've got to look forward to is more player sales, and no cash to spend.  Under the clueless Lerner and Faulkner, we've no vision or plan for the future, and that's hardly going to get the brightest young managers in the game beating a path to our door.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2652 on: April 01, 2012, 08:34:24 PM »
Another chat with a steward yesterday who told us the Asian oil money takeover story. Apparently it's happening in the summer... Would be great if it was true, but I'll believe it when I see it...

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2653 on: April 01, 2012, 08:42:43 PM »
I have always thought the silence which shrouds everything which happens at VP is evidence that there are contractual secrets we know nothing about.   I suspected that the O'Neill flounce was contract related and the size of the compo the club coughed up without a word of defence only heightened my suspicions.

Now the deafening silence about everything which is happening to us and not one single word of reassurance or support for the loyal fans from the owner, just silence, leads me to suspect that McLeish has a contract which has a no sacking no resignation clause in it and a bonus clause for premiership survival and a further bonus for the amount by which the wages bill is reduced.

It is a contract drawn up in the aftermath of costing 12 million pounds to get O'Neill and Houllier off our backs and replace them with the incumbent millstone.   Faulkner has convinced Lerner that in future every Villa manager is going to have his pay performance linked and that does not mean football performance it means financial.


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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2654 on: April 01, 2012, 08:54:12 PM »
Nothing would Surprise me Brian, these guys have proved themselves to be incompetant in almost every way concerning the running of a football club. As I have said many times the only way things will change is because of Financial concerns, ie Signing Bent to avoid relegation.
I really do believe that the only chance of change is if ST sales are truly awful or new owners.

 


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