AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[PaulWinch again]

So IF he went now, would we be happy to take any replacement - is it an anyone but AML policy we have.

Because that's what it would need to be given the late stage of the season, applicants willing and available and the clueless selection policy we'd obviously have. 

You'd be happy with Curbishley for example?

Potential Sid and Kmac taking over could give us the lift to pick up enough points to survive and then address it properly in the summer. I think we are genuinely down to that point now.

[Hoppo]

Glenn Hoddle, Keegan, Venables, Lee Clark.. I have given him a chance but enough is enough he is ruining us. Its not about Alex McLeish now its about ASTON VILLA..

[ozzjim]

Lee CLark is not a bad shout. I would sooner see someone like him given the chance next season than McLeish. Someone young and with a bit of something different.

[Toronto Villa]

You know I would take Curbishley now. He has a good record in the premier league all things considered, and a much better one than McLeish.

You're drunk Ozz. Take a fresh look at that post in the morning after a coffee and a couple of headache killers.

[Ad@m]

So IF he went now, would we be happy to take any replacement - is it an anyone but AML policy we have.

Because that's what it would need to be given the late stage of the season, applicants willing and available and the clueless selection policy we'd obviously have. 

You'd be happy with Curbishley for example?

Potential Sid and Kmac taking over could give us the lift to pick up enough points to survive and then address it properly in the summer. I think we are genuinely down to that point now.

Just look at Wolves for an example of what happens when you sack your manager and promote from within.

[ozzjim]

I am stone cold sober mate, don't drink at all I am afraid to tell you. He is a better manager than the clown in charge it is as simple as that, and as such I would take him on a contract till the end of next season if he kept us up tomorrow. As I would a lot of managers that are out of work and better than McLeish! He was a terrible appointment, we gave him long enough, our form is woeful and getting worse, the players look clueless, he looks as defeated and pissed as he did last season at Blues, and we have less points than they had at the same stage. The fact he is still our manager points to our CEO having about as much idea about football as a one legged ballet dancer does of sailing a fucking cruise ship. We are in a mess, and the club is torn down the middle at a time when it needs to be united by the board sticking by a manager the fans will quite simply never take too. They have put themselves in a corner and rather than looking in the mirror they are digging into the floor hoping it will all go away, and the sad fact is we are going to be within a whiskers lick of going down, or worse we will drop.

[PaulWinch again]

So IF he went now, would we be happy to take any replacement - is it an anyone but AML policy we have.

Because that's what it would need to be given the late stage of the season, applicants willing and available and the clueless selection policy we'd obviously have. 

You'd be happy with Curbishley for example?

Potential Sid and Kmac taking over could give us the lift to pick up enough points to survive and then address it properly in the summer. I think we are genuinely down to that point now.

Just look at Wolves for an example of what happens when you sack your manager and promote from within.

Could our results be much worse? On a short term basis I'm not convinced it'd be that bad an idea. Also there's a huge focus on bringing the kids through, who better to guide them to the end of the season than the guys who developed them.

[Ad@m]

So IF he went now, would we be happy to take any replacement - is it an anyone but AML policy we have.

Because that's what it would need to be given the late stage of the season, applicants willing and available and the clueless selection policy we'd obviously have. 

You'd be happy with Curbishley for example?

Potential Sid and Kmac taking over could give us the lift to pick up enough points to survive and then address it properly in the summer. I think we are genuinely down to that point now.

Just look at Wolves for an example of what happens when you sack your manager and promote from within.

Could our results be much worse? On a short term basis I'm not convinced it'd be that bad an idea. Also there's a huge focus on bringing the kids through, who better to guide them to the end of the season than the guys who developed them.

I went to Newcastle at the start of last season when KMac was in charge. 

So yes, our results could be much worse!

[Greg N'Ash]

Sorry but Curbishley. No thanks. Only person i'd have at this point would be Cowans on the off chance his knowledge of the kids could bring their development forward at a rapid rate of knots. Even then i'd think it would be more hope than anything.

[PaulWinch again]

That was a shocking game. However everything has been drained from the club now, and there is a greater focus on the kids. I want Mcleish gone, because I genuinely believe we will go down under his management. I'd rather we gave Kmac a chance to save us.

[paul_e]

See I think there was enough on the pitch today to show that with a decent manager using the resources properly we could see a good turn around.

I thought all of the kids did pretty well, Baker made a couple of mistakes from corners but that's a coaching thing as we've been doing it all season regardless of the team picked, Bannan and Gardner looked at bit on the edge of things but again that was more because of how they were (mis)used.

I firmly believe that our academy deserves better management and coaching at the top level to make the most of some very talented kids.

McLeish has to go, be that before or after the end of the season, but he can't be allowed to survive this season.  No manager on the money he's earning can justify getting our squad involved in a relegation battle.  Even if it isn't his squad he needed to get the players performing at 90-95% for me and I don't think he's done that with anyone in our squad other than maybe Given.

[Aston Manor]

McLeish has to go,yes and I don't think Curbishley is that bad a call to keep us up. Thing is, we'd end up being saddled with him. In any case I don't think he'd come. Post O'Neill his was the only name leaked by the club as a manager that had been interviewed for the job.  For me that was simply just to make us feel better about who they turned down and who they eventually appointed. I'm sure Curbishley would think the same. Add that to another list of bad ideas from our board.

[Toronto Villa]

I am stone cold sober mate, don't drink at all I am afraid to tell you. He is a better manager than the clown in charge it is as simple as that, and as such I would take him on a contract till the end of next season if he kept us up tomorrow. As I would a lot of managers that are out of work and better than McLeish! He was a terrible appointment, we gave him long enough, our form is woeful and getting worse, the players look clueless, he looks as defeated and pissed as he did last season at Blues, and we have less points than they had at the same stage. The fact he is still our manager points to our CEO having about as much idea about football as a one legged ballet dancer does of sailing a fucking cruise ship. We are in a mess, and the club is torn down the middle at a time when it needs to be united by the board sticking by a manager the fans will quite simply never take too. They have put themselves in a corner and rather than looking in the mirror they are digging into the floor hoping it will all go away, and the sad fact is we are going to be within a whiskers lick of going down, or worse we will drop.

Ozz, sorry I'm being silly. I'm close to giving up in the bloke myself. I just don't think Curbishley is ever an option. He's just one of those managers that gets linked with everything and gets nothing. Bit like us a number of years back being linked with Carlton Palmer every year, and even after he'd retired. If we are going to go a different route and someone with a good standing in the game isn't available, then I'd rather give it to a rising name like Poyet, Rodgers, Lambert etc or someone from the continent and give them a contract that allows them the freedom to truly build something at what still is a very big football club.

[PeterWithe]

Lee CLark is not a bad shout. I would sooner see someone like him given the chance next season than McLeish. Someone young and with a bit of something different.

I was speaking to my mate on Friday who is a Hudds Season Ticket holder, I'd not spoken to him for a few months.

He was glad to see the back of Clark, he described him as a snake in the grass, always the whiff that he'd had clandestine talks with other clubs behind his chairmans back, including the hated Leeds Utd. He also said the much vaunted run of unbeaten games included an awful lot of draws against poorer teams against whom they'd took  the lead before dropping deeper and deeper in order to unsuccessfully protect their lead. He joined Hudds when they were 6th, spent more money than any other in their history and left them just two places higher four years later.

'The emperor is wearing no clothes' was his overall verdict.

Frying pan. Fire.

[andyh]

I know you should 'be careful what you wish for' but bloody hell, I wish McLeish would fuck off.