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Offline ez

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2430 on: March 26, 2012, 06:49:03 PM »
It was a shocking appointment. It will be almost as shocking if he stays another season. McAllister wasn't retained, why should McLeish be.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2431 on: March 26, 2012, 07:27:22 PM »
there are no signs from Randy because he's never here, so we just dont know what he's thinking, but he will know the situation is getting worse as every week goes by, and at some point will have to act, its as simple as that.

i have said before and time will tell but i just cant see him being in charge at VP next year, and will be gone by Christmas

Randy was in town the week of the Fulham game, just because he doesn't have a fanfare every time he arrives, it's not to say he's never here. Hopefully he'll have seen the feedback from the telesales research to season ticket holders. I can't imagine him not.

As for 'gone by Christmas', you would pray that despite their football experience they'd have learnt a lesson about replacing a manager after Martin O'Scab dropped us in the messy stuff. Why wait until there's nobody to choose from when he has between now and the summer to convince the right man to take charge?

We desperately need to get back on track and the thought of starting a new season with so much negitivity around Villa Park isn't worth thinking about.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2432 on: March 26, 2012, 07:44:43 PM »
I reckon he is safe as houses in his job.

That may be the case but then it turns upside down the notion that we're trying to get our house in order. It would be a simple case of Randy cutting off his nose to spite his face by sticking with him. Even George Osbourne could see the simple economic outcome of keeping McCleish as manager.

I hope you're right, but can't see it.

If it'd cost us, say, 2m to lose McLeish and 2m to free a manager from elsewhere (and god only knows where he'd start looking this time, he'd probably go for Mick McCarthy), how many season ticket holders would we have to lose for changing the manager to be the cheapest option?

More than we'd actually lose, I reckon, or close enough for a non interested chairman (and a handful of matches attended plus a spending freeze suggests that is what he is) to take the course of least hassle.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2433 on: March 26, 2012, 07:45:41 PM »
I'll have 20 quid with you he's here for the start of next season if you fancy, Mark?

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2434 on: March 26, 2012, 07:48:53 PM »
One thing you will be able to bank on is the inability of our board to act proactively.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2435 on: March 26, 2012, 07:49:58 PM »
there are no signs from Randy because he's never here, so we just dont know what he's thinking, but he will know the situation is getting worse as every week goes by, and at some point will have to act, its as simple as that.

i have said before and time will tell but i just cant see him being in charge at VP next year, and will be gone by Christmas

Randy was in town the week of the Fulham game, just because he doesn't have a fanfare every time he arrives, it's not to say he's never here. Hopefully he'll have seen the feedback from the telesales research to season ticket holders. I can't imagine him not.

As for 'gone by Christmas', you would pray that despite their football experience they'd have learnt a lesson about replacing a manager after Martin O'Scab dropped us in the messy stuff. Why wait until there's nobody to choose from when he has between now and the summer to convince the right man to take charge?

We desperately need to get back on track and the thought of starting a new season with so much negitivity around Villa Park isn't worth thinking about.

The bold bit is key for me.They're not football people but Lerner and Faulkner are both experienced enough in business to realise that the working atmosphere is a very important aspect to achieving goals in any environment.  Currently the atmosphere is terrible, at best the fans are resigned to their lot, at worst they're baying for blood.  The morale in the team has got to be awful right now.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2436 on: March 26, 2012, 08:14:56 PM »
I'll have 20 quid with you he's here for the start of next season if you fancy, Mark?

You do realise how crap you are at betting, don't you?

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2437 on: March 26, 2012, 08:32:48 PM »
I think PF simply likes having Eck around as a mate. It is the only sane explanation I can think of.
I think a lot of it was his attitude post 5-1 drubbing, most Managers would be grumpy and unwilling to socialise.
By all accounts McLeish was friendly and personable to Randy and Co.
Doubtless they saw it as strength of character to be like that after such an arse whipping.
'What a guy!' They must have thought.

I think I'd prefer someone who was a miserable bastard after a defeat. It might just show they cared. If we ever lost to them by a big margin I would expect the manager to be totally aware of what he had done and if he was seen being friendly with the opposition he should be hung by his wotsits from the Holte End roof.


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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2438 on: March 26, 2012, 08:41:59 PM »
I would take hoddle at the moment! Or Curbishley... free and at least average, which is better than totally shit.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2439 on: March 26, 2012, 08:48:16 PM »
Well I guess we can right off Brendan Rodgers as he signed a three and a half year contract at Swansea earlier this season.

Curbishley, Ozzjim? You really do need help, fella.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2440 on: March 26, 2012, 09:13:02 PM »
I need help, yes. But then I see accepting the like of Curbishley as a sign of how demoralized they have made me!

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2441 on: March 26, 2012, 09:23:03 PM »
Ranieri has been sacked............

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2442 on: March 26, 2012, 09:24:02 PM »
Well I guess we can right off Brendan Rodgers as he signed a three and a half year contract at Swansea earlier this season.

Curbishley, Ozzjim? You really do need help, fella.

I dont care who it is. It could be my little sister, she could guess a better starting XI and certainly admit we got our ass kicked by Arsenal. At least she's not delusional. When you're at rock bottom you can only go up.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2443 on: March 26, 2012, 09:28:51 PM »
Well I guess we can right off Brendan Rodgers as he signed a three and a half year contract at Swansea earlier this season.

Curbishley, Ozzjim? You really do need help, fella.

I dont care who it is. It could be my little sister, she could guess a better starting XI and certainly admit we got our ass kicked by Arsenal. At least she's not delusional. When you're at rock bottom you can only go up.
We are not rock bottom and we can go down.  We need shut of this fool before he takes us down.

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Re: The Future of Alex McLeish? [Reply#1948] (With added protest Reply #2351)
« Reply #2444 on: March 26, 2012, 09:30:06 PM »
Please god not Curbishley. His football's no better and he makes Mcleish look charismatic. Everytime he used to be interviewed he looked like he hated being a football manager. Guaranteed to suck the little remaining enthusiasm out of the fans that guy.

 


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