AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[john e]

we are 8 points clear of relegation as it stands with a game in hand, we are not going down, we wont lose every game till the end of the season, we will pick up a few more points,

the problem with you guys banging on and on about relegation is that when we are safe and we dont go down it will look as though AM has done a good job keeping us up
 because your so worried about something thats not going to happen you are playing into his hands, he will just turn round and say 'you all thought we were going down, but i kept us up' he will look like a hero, when he is the exact opposite.
we are not in any danger of going down, so dont make it look as though thats the requirement for Mcliesh

[Monty]

I think I was in a minority of actually liking him and thinking he would do well for us in the future.

we were definitely in the minority. His record after January was very respectable indeed. I still think we'd have lost Downing, and Young was going either way, but the types of replacements would have been creative and imaginative.

I'm in this minority as well. I think he got harsh treatment for some of the gaffs he did, and his vision for the club was clear, modern and refreshingly ruthless (I liked the way he dealt with the unjustifiably big egos in the defence). How far we've regressed since has been gut-wrenching.

[paul_e]

I think I was in a minority of actually liking him and thinking he would do well for us in the future.

we were definitely in the minority. His record after January was very respectable indeed. I still think we'd have lost Downing, and Young was going either way, but the types of replacements would have been creative and imaginative.

I'm in this minority as well. I think he got harsh treatment for some of the gaffs he did, and his vision for the club was clear, modern and refreshingly ruthless (I liked the way he dealt with the unjustifiably big egos in the defence). How far we've regressed since has been gut-wrenching.

I liked what Houllier was trying to achieve, and I think some of our kids would be much better integrated into the squad by now if he'd stayed, as well as the fact that there wouldn't have been second chances for the wasters who'd screwed us last season.

This is also why I want McLeish out now rather than giving him unti lthe end of the season.  I want a new guy in to see a bunch of games and realise that Stan isn't up to it anymore (it's a shame, I liked petrov at his best but he's nowhere near that level now and needs to be replaced), Dunne is a liability who thinks he's bigger than the club, Warnock is a car wreck and Heskey is a waste of a shirt.  Then there's no chance of them getting another season of being assessed by a new guy.

[TheSandman]

I never bought into the 'he seems a decent guy' thing tbh.  Did the dirty on Blues to come to us and did it in a way that shows no decency in the slightest.

He shat on Hibs from a great height too. The nice guy stuff is a bit of a myth.

[Monty]

This is also why I want McLeish out now rather than giving him unti lthe end of the season.  I want a new guy in to see a bunch of games and realise that Stan isn't up to it anymore (it's a shame, I liked petrov at his best but he's nowhere near that level now and needs to be replaced), Dunne is a liability who thinks he's bigger than the club, Warnock is a car wreck and Heskey is a waste of a shirt.  Then there's no chance of them getting another season of being assessed by a new guy.

Tbh, the kind of manager I'd like in is the kind who'd perhaps watch DVDs of our season or just know what we're like anyway. At the very least, he'd see how useless these guys are in training. So if he were ever appointed, he'd be fine on the dross.

[PeterWithesShin]

Quite how leaving a club for a bigger club is shitting on the former club is beyond me. Nearly every manager we've ever had has done the same. As have 99% of the players we've ever signed. None of those can be nice guys then either. 

[TheSandman]

Mid-season about a week after saying you had no interest in moving?

[PeterWithesShin]

Which I would imagine thousands of players and managers have done over the years. Many will have said that and meant it at the time, then the bigger club comes calling and presents a new opportunity. The vast majority will probably take it.

Martinez said he wanted to stay at Wigan and chose not to talk to us is seen by many as him not having ambition. But if he had talked to us and then joined apparently he wouldn't be a nice guy but as guy who shit on clubs.

[Walmley_Villa]

I would happily take Gary Mac back - we ended last season well and were playing some decent football. I've seen nothing come close to that this season and we as a club have paid millions for the priviledge. Shocking.

[VillaAlways]

I think if Houllier had stayed , we may well have been where Newcastle are now

[Monty]

I think if Houllier had stayed , we may well have been where Newcastle are now

Weren't we meant to be the front-runners for signing Yohan Cabaye before GH left?

[Legion]

Look! Another protest!

[VillaAlways]

I think if Houllier had stayed , we may well have been where Newcastle are now


Weren't we meant to be the front-runners for signing Yohan Cabaye before GH left?

Yep.Depressing isn't it

[caster troy]

Look! Another protest!

I'll be there this time. It won't make a difference but at least I get the chance to vent my enormous frustration.

[ozzjim]

Look! Another protest!

I'll be there this time. It won't make a difference but at least I get the chance to vent my enormous frustration.

If I was going to the games, I would go to this. There is not much we can do as fans to show our distaste, but this is at least one. Fair play for having a go and not just taking it up the backside without a squeal.