AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[hipkiss92]

Oh no..... he has gone there.....



"I don't think it needs much excuse for them to get on my back just now. I'm pleased for the Villa fans. I know they had a little dig at the substitutions but I know what football is like and it is extremely fickle."


There is a banner that needs to come out for Bolton...

I do like McLeish, he's obviously hard working and honest about his position, it's just his football style is so shit I want to cry. Maybe we should change the banner to 'we're not fickle, we just don't like your football'.

[itbrvilla]

And all this decent man shite. How he left blues is the biggest clue that it's bollocks (as much as I like getting one over Blues except in this case).

[villan from luton]

Why is it bollocks that he is a decent guy? I dont want him at Villa cos of the style of football, but lets have a reality check, we are not a top club any more. Managers turned us down cos of the financial constraints

[PeterWithe]

The team yesterday played a lot more like I suspected we were going to set up at the start of the season, not an awful lot of quality but commitment, energy and organisation but lets remember for 90mins we didn't get anywhere near breaking down a pretty ropey Fulham team.

As well as the dull football one of the main reasons I'd get shot is that his appointment has been so divisive, nothings changed, he could win five of the last 10 games and I'd still want rid to unite the club.

[mikeb1982]

The way I see it, I only want 2 things from the Villa, to win as often as possible and to see the players *try* their very best to win at all times. It's the will to win that gets called into question with McLeish, and he's got a long way to go to change that perception. As has been said many times, there have been some shameful, gutless performances this season that have left me feeling cheated. I truly hope this is the beginning of something good, it felt amazing to cheer a winning goal again.  I just need a bit more convincing

[Villanation]

Why is it bollocks that he is a decent guy? I dont want him at Villa cos of the style of football, but lets have a reality check, we are not a top club any more. Managers turned us down cos of the financial constraints

I don't want him at Villa because his style of football is dire I also think he's as close to useless tactically as you can get, that said, why shouldn't Villa be a top club and aspire to be a top club, that's exactly where we should be, every bit as much as Man City or Arsenal or Chelsea in fact you could make a very good case for saying we where being labeled as a top club just a few short season's ago, things don't change that quick. As for managers turning us down because of financial constraints, if that's the case why did McLiesh take the job, and then when you consider he's now one of the top ten highest paid managers in the world all of a sudden you begin to understand the man's motivation, especially when you consider it was such a volatile move, fraught with danger and no money to spend, wonder why he did that then, I doubt very much because he's a fan of Aston Villa and this was his dream job, more a case of money he can get here he won't get anywhere else, and there you have it.

His he a decent guy, depends how you look at life really.

[villan from luton]

Villanation, Ron Saunders was not a Villa fan when he was appointed Villa manager. I am not a McLeish fan after performances at Spuds, at home to Liverpool and Man City, far too negative. However, he does come across as a decent guy and the bollocks about him having a dig at the fans last night is just that. Why did he take the job, maybe because Villa are a better team than the noses and he would not get a better job than Villa with his CV. As for us being a top club now, whoever is in charge has a massive task if the chairman is not backing him and can you honestly say he has been backed by Leerner.

[dave.woodhall]

The team yesterday played a lot more like I suspected we were going to set up at the start of the season, not an awful lot of quality but commitment, energy and organisation but lets remember for 90mins we didn't get anywhere near breaking down a pretty ropey Fulham team.

A pretty ropey Fulham that 22% of our own supporters thought we would beat.

[villadelph]

He's not getting the sack guys, never was. This entire thread is a waste of bandwidth.

[villan from luton]

The team yesterday played a lot more like I suspected we were going to set up at the start of the season, not an awful lot of quality but commitment, energy and organisation but lets remember for 90mins we didn't get anywhere near breaking down a pretty ropey Fulham team.

A pretty ropey Fulham that 22% of our own supporters thought we would beat.

And had won their previous game 5-0, albeit against a shite yam yam mob

[Dave Clark Five]

He's not getting the sack guys, never was. This entire thread is a waste of bandwidth.

...and getting more and more depressing as the night wears on. I apologise for supporting the manager.

[SoccerHQ]

Yesterday could be a turning point but we've been here before this season.

I was genuinely more excited after Chelsea away when we played good football and beat a good team convincingly. That should've started a 2nd half of the season upturn but instead we were outplayed by Swansea 48 hours later and all momentum was lost.

Again Wolves was the sort of comeback that got a sort of feelgood factor going and a week later throwing away a 2 goal lead at Arsenal evaporated all that.

Since then the results have been really poor. I expect us to beat Bolton but after that is a very tough run in where I can't see many wins at all so think we'll limp through to the end of what has been a forgettable season.

[PeterWithe]

The team yesterday played a lot more like I suspected we were going to set up at the start of the season, not an awful lot of quality but commitment, energy and organisation but lets remember for 90mins we didn't get anywhere near breaking down a pretty ropey Fulham team.

A pretty ropey Fulham that 22% of our own supporters thought we would beat.

And the majority had weighed it up pretty accurately, even though the performance was much improved it took a pretty horrendous keeping mistake to deny them the draw they had set up for.

Still, I'm not complaining, any port in a storm.

[dave.woodhall]

The team yesterday played a lot more like I suspected we were going to set up at the start of the season, not an awful lot of quality but commitment, energy and organisation but lets remember for 90mins we didn't get anywhere near breaking down a pretty ropey Fulham team.

A pretty ropey Fulham that 22% of our own supporters thought we would beat.

And the majority had weighed it up pretty accurately, even though the performance was much improved it took a pretty horrendous keeping mistake to deny them the draw they had set up for.

Still, I'm not complaining, any port in a storm.

They weren't accurate at all, they were wrong.  Last week we conceded a late equaliser and it seemed the world was coming to an end. This week we get a late winner and it's lucky, fortunate, down to a mistake by the opposition.

[Villanation]

Villanation, Ron Saunders was not a Villa fan when he was appointed Villa manager. I am not a McLeish fan after performances at Spuds, at home to Liverpool and Man City, far too negative. However, he does come across as a decent guy and the bollocks about him having a dig at the fans last night is just that. Why did he take the job, maybe because Villa are a better team than the noses and he would not get a better job than Villa with his CV. As for us being a top club now, whoever is in charge has a massive task if the chairman is not backing him and can you honestly say he has been backed by Leerner.

I still say his move was motivated, as motivated as Lerner's move was to take him in the first place, Lerner being caught between a rock and a hard place after both the shock of MON and then the health issue forcing Houllier out the door a short period after MON, this prompting almost panic in the recruitment of McLiesh by Lerner, that is why that bloke "the General" knew nothing of it and when being pestered by fans on the eve of the McLiesh appointment still stated there was no truth in the rumor of McLiesh coming to Villa.

For me I think Lerner is allowing a period of settlement in the club after a period of to much change, I think Lerner knows precisely what the next move is, can I honestly say that Lerner has backed McLiesh, I think that's obvious, but then again I don't think he ever intended to, otherwise he would have done it by now.

Do I think McLiesh is a decent guy, as I have only ever seen the man during interviews on TV how would I know, when doing his TV stuff he's doing what he's supposed to do and that's put a face on, what I base my opinion on are the actions of not just McLiesh but also Lerner and in both case I personally think the are both duplicitous and motivated.