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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1800 on: March 06, 2012, 01:27:14 PM »
I've said it before, Norwich, Swansea, Stoke and even Newcasltle have better team / squads than us??? I don't think so, AM is not getting the best out of them, far from it. If they played to their full potential or anywhere near it, we would be competing for the Europa.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1801 on: March 06, 2012, 02:21:00 PM »
Is there anyone left who thinks we need to just get behind the manager and team...

Or is everyone now fed up and against the Manager?

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1802 on: March 06, 2012, 02:23:13 PM »
Is there anyone left who thinks we need to just get behind the manager and team...

Or is everyone now fed up and against the Manager?

To be fair, the crowd do get behind the team. Look at the second half of QPR at home, or the Arsenal game, for an example of that. Or numerous away games, for that matter.

I actually think that the amount of stick AM has got at games is nothing compared to the impression you'd get if you went by the reports of the media.

Any stick he has got is largely what you'd expect for fans of a team who haven't won a home game for four months now, and who are 15th in the table.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1803 on: March 06, 2012, 02:24:06 PM »
We are come matchday. However, getting behind AM won't make a jot of difference to his ability as a manager which has got us into this position in the table.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1804 on: March 06, 2012, 02:26:44 PM »
Its defo not a top 6 squad, but it is one of the best squads outside the top 6 surely!

On paper I think it is, but when you look at the defensive ineptitude we've shown, and factor in the rumoured attitude's of some of those defenders, then in actuality it's not.

I do agree there is enough there for top half though.

Lol if I said best team outside the top 6... meaning thats 7th, 8th, or 9th

and you say probably not, but defo a top half team... with is 7th, 8th or 9th...

How can you disagree with me?

I can disagree with you on the basis that if they players were playing to form we're as good as anything outside the top 6, but that would be excluding the fact that the defenders we have seem to have forgotten how to defend.  So, we have full internationals in Collins, Dunne and Warnock, who have largely played at a Championship level this season.  And that's down to them and their individual errors, not the manager.


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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1805 on: March 06, 2012, 02:27:42 PM »
Killing our club is going too far. Do you know what, if I had any faith in him, I could make a case for giving him the summer to shape the squad as he chooses and give him next year to see what he can do.

Unfortunately, he does not have the luxury of that faith from many and it will have a disastrous effect on attendances if he is still here next year.

And that is the problem with making such a divisive appointment and then tieing his hands on transfers.

In regards to the summer transfers, I think I have seen in the Birmingham Mail about seven times in the last two weeks, references to a big summer squad upheaval at Villa. Not sure if that is just intentional vibes from Villa to the paper, to put a spin on a couple of cheap purchases and free signings as well as a few players leaving look positive, or if funds for decent signings a going to be made available.

Sadly, I think it's the former.


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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1806 on: March 06, 2012, 02:33:18 PM »
Its pretty much the same defence that got us into the carling cup final, semi final of the FA cup and 6th in the League is it not?

It is, but for whatever reason they've been largely shit since MON left.  We can't really blame AM for that, as Houllier had the same problem.
Even before MON left they weren't infallible. In over 50 years I've never seen us concede more than the 7 at Stamford Bridge in 2010, when Dunne, Collins, L Young and Warnock were playing.

No they weren't infallible - what defence is?  But you can't judge them on one result, but rather over the whole season, during which they were excellent and we had (I think) the 3rd or 4th best defensive record in the league.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1807 on: March 06, 2012, 02:34:47 PM »
Is there anyone left who thinks we need to just get behind the manager and team...

Or is everyone now fed up and against the Manager?

Quite honestly I think he is getting off very lightly, in comparison to past managers!

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1808 on: March 06, 2012, 02:38:17 PM »
I think he has got off very lightly indeed. Whether you want to look at style of football or results or both this season has been dreadful on every level. The fans have shown remarkable patience overall, but enough is enough.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1809 on: March 06, 2012, 02:39:27 PM »
Definitely a need for a new poll. If we had a swingometer it would show a major change since the paranoia of immediate post-Blackburn. At one time you could count the 'Nos' on the fingers of one hand.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1810 on: March 06, 2012, 02:40:41 PM »
Any stick he has got is largely what you'd expect for fans of a team who haven't won a home game for four months now, and who are 15th in the table.
Seeing that fact in cold black and white, brutally hits home how shit McLeish is and how incompotent Randy and co are.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1811 on: March 06, 2012, 02:42:18 PM »
No home win for four months is absolutely unbelievable and like I said the patience of the fans has been remarkable overall. I'm not so sure there would be that bigger change in the poll from immeadiately post-Blackburn to now, nothing has changed. Our record this season speaks for itself, atrocious.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1812 on: March 06, 2012, 02:44:50 PM »
The brilliance of the reserves last night keeps the dream alive.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1813 on: March 06, 2012, 02:50:02 PM »
Weimann deserves a start soon.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1814 on: March 06, 2012, 03:04:07 PM »
23.8% at the moment.
It was like shots in last night. They were firing them at goal from all over as if to say to the manager 'pick me, pick me'. Ask and it shall be given.

 


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