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Offline Shoody

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1725 on: March 04, 2012, 09:50:31 PM »
Lambert is destined for much bigger things than Celtic..

I'd take any of Lambert, Poyet, Rodgers, Adkins or McDermott. One of them must want to come here.

The problem we have is our players. If we get somebody new in no doubt they too will think they can do better and keep players like Dunne, Collins and Warnock. They need to go ASAP whoever comes in. Need someone who will get rid and replace, but also be much better.

Offline Chris Harte

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1726 on: March 04, 2012, 09:58:16 PM »
I'd be, (genuinely) interested to know if the 49 people who have so far voted 'NO' have done so becasue they want McLeish to be the manager or if they think it would be even more detrimental to get rid of him.

I voted "No" thinking it would be detrimental to sack him now. In the summer was a different matter, although my opinion has now changed and I want shot now.

Offline Holte L2

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1727 on: March 04, 2012, 10:08:16 PM »
Theres not any truth in the press conference rumours tomorrow then? I'd been getting excited all afternoon

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1728 on: March 04, 2012, 11:16:41 PM »
If we fail to get four points against Fulham and Bolton in our next two games, and I think we will, then I hope he gets sacked and we appoint Kev Mac, Sid and Roeder until the end of the season but do our homework on approaching and appointing someone, quickly, as soon as the season is over.  He has to go regardless at the end of the season as he's so poor.  Paul Lambert for me.

Offline Irish villain

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1729 on: March 04, 2012, 11:26:47 PM »
There's no point getting in Paul Lambert unless we can match his ambition. This has to be a long term project to make Aston Villa great again.

Drifting along hoping to stay in the league while serving up turgid football every week is simply not good enough and not worth an ambitious manager's time and effort.

Offline Shoody

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1730 on: March 05, 2012, 12:31:11 AM »
No reason why Lambert couldnt be our Moyes?

Theres also absolutely no point in hiring somebody who ISNT ambitious on the grounds of the job (they will be paid around £2m a year to do) taking up too much time and effort.

Offline Shoody

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1731 on: March 05, 2012, 12:35:32 AM »
And if you buy right and have a good manager a midtable club can get in the fight for Champions League. see Newcastle. They wont get CL, but they are in the fight for it.

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1732 on: March 05, 2012, 07:14:12 AM »
I'd be, (genuinely) interested to know if the 49 people who have so far voted 'NO' have done so becasue they want McLeish to be the manager or if they think it would be even more detrimental to get rid of him.


Well i've never wanted him particulary as manager but i'd say the following

a)we probably won't go down so we might as well wait to the summer at least so we have a clearer picture and more choice.

b)Of the names i've seen put for forward who i'd like in charge most aren't realistic and seem to be reliant on some relaxation of the present financial conditions to attract them - It's not gonna happen.

c) The other names put forward, i'm not convinced will be any better and their main recommendation seems to be they're not Mcleish. Well we had that last season with Houllier and it didn't get us very far.

d)Given the above points, paying off another manager and his staff is hardly going to help the financial situation because it will come off the transfer budget and leave even less funds for the next mug in charge who's likely to be an underwhelming name to say the least - He'll struggle and come next March we'll all be calling for the next guy . as i said the only option i'd consider would be Cowans because he'll have time from the fans to put it right unless we're really scraping along the bottom

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1733 on: March 05, 2012, 07:30:48 AM »
I'd be, (genuinely) interested to know if the 49 people who have so far voted 'NO' have done so becasue they want McLeish to be the manager or if they think it would be even more detrimental to get rid of him.

I voted "No" thinking it would be detrimental to sack him now. In the summer was a different matter, although my opinion has now changed and I want shot now.

I voted NO as I don't think he should be sacked NOW!  However if you asked should he be gone at the end of the season (or a). If we are safe from relegation or b). already relageated) then the answer would be YES!!!

Offline NeilH

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1734 on: March 05, 2012, 07:37:09 AM »
I’m with Greg on this and have also voted no. Just looking at the accounts last week and the money we’ve wasted on managerial payouts makes my stomach churn. As unpalatable as it is to have McLeish in charge of the club, I find it equally unpalatable to have to pay him off with a substantial severance package. Add in the fact that I have zero confidence in the ability of both Lerner and Faulkner to find an effective successor and I’m left with the uncomfortable reality of McLeish staying and seeing out his contract.
The board brought this whole sorry mess upon themselves and in view of the financial state we are also in, we now face the prospect of having to stick with McLeish, no matter what. It is particularly galling as most Villa fans are screaming ‘I told you so.’

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1735 on: March 05, 2012, 07:55:40 AM »
Still like the idea of a huge 'Faulk off Paul' Banner

Offline jonc73

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1736 on: March 05, 2012, 07:56:06 AM »
I also voted no, its too late and he wouldn't be replaced with anyone better. I also think the owner will NEVER get rid of him.

Offline Rioch is King

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1737 on: March 05, 2012, 08:16:55 AM »
'No' from me - wrong time.  His appointment doesn't take into account the effect the feeling in the crowd has on the players and teams performance - if the crowd were fully behind this team they would play with more heart and less fear and we'd be OK. But that was never going to happen with this manager, even those that were going to give him a chance didn't 'want' him.

Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1738 on: March 05, 2012, 09:29:45 AM »
He's still hanging in there for me, not quite done enough to warrant the sack just yet.

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1739 on: March 05, 2012, 09:40:37 AM »
If we don't win in the next 3 he has to go.

 


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