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Offline Doorbell

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1680 on: March 04, 2012, 05:40:51 PM »
*their*

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1681 on: March 04, 2012, 05:43:58 PM »
I honestly believe that if Houllier could have carried on we would not be where we are now. 
Hard to say.
Certainly the football wouldn't have been so dire.

I think the players would have been enjoying there football more, and that would have reflected on the pitch and in the results.

We certainly wouldn't have had to flush yet another £6m down the toilet, as i'm sure Houllier could have got the best out of Makoun.

Considering we're on a tight budget, why has nobody said to McLeish

'We paid £6m for him, you're going to have to work hard with him.'

How come in this age of austerity that we're just allowed to write £6m off?

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1682 on: March 04, 2012, 05:53:39 PM »
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We certainly wouldn't have had to flush yet another £6m down the toilet, as i'm sure Houllier could have got the best out of Makoun.

Considering we're on a tight budget, why has nobody said to McLeish

'We paid £6m for him, you're going to have to work hard with him.'

How come in this age of austerity that we're just allowed to write £6m off?

Agreed, I was amazed at the speed in which Makoun was dispatched, considering he'd had a mere 6 or 7 months with the club.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1683 on: March 04, 2012, 05:56:42 PM »
Maybe a good manager will be able to utilise him better.

He's not a true defensive midfielder, in the sense that his tackling is suspect and he's not particularly strong.

But he does have a good range of passing.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1684 on: March 04, 2012, 05:58:22 PM »
But he does have a good range of passing.
No wonder McLeish doesn't like him.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1685 on: March 04, 2012, 05:58:40 PM »
It may have had something to do with the fact he can't tackle. A bit of a luxury when you're playing with a midfield where only one player, Petrov, can tackle.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1686 on: March 04, 2012, 06:01:56 PM »
I really liked what i saw of him, he looked given time as if he could have been a really good premiership midfielder. Sending him packing to Greece after 7 appearances was ridiculous.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1687 on: March 04, 2012, 06:06:45 PM »
Maybe a good manager will be able to utilise him better.

He's not a true defensive midfielder, in the sense that his tackling is suspect and he's not particularly strong.

But he does have a good range of passing.
With Petrov and Herd to hold up the CMF, Makoun could have played a useful part as the box-to-box player. I still think Ireland will be on his way, which leaves a vacancy in a MF 3.
Unless Gardner or Bannan step up to the plate more convincingly next season.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1688 on: March 04, 2012, 06:12:25 PM »

  But who do you appoint?

  Do you go down the route of having an up and coming manager, and take the risk that the current players treat him with as much contempt as they did the previous two managers, or do you go for a big name, but did'nt we have that in MON and Hou?

  For me, from the front 4 yday, you have 2 who put in 70% effort at most, Gabby and Ireland, Albrighton who has gone backward, N'Zog, who seems to be struggling with confidence, and wants too much time on the ball, and no decent quality replacements.On top of that you have a midfielder who is 2 years past his sell by date, with no competition, a LB who does'bt want to be here., and a manager who has'nt been able to bring his own players in but gets all the blame.

 McL was/is a bad appointment, but with modern players, we either go down the route of having cheaper, but more industrious, but less quality players with an up and coming manager, or have players like Ireland, who should be at a top 4 club on ability, but a division 2 team on professionalism.

 

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1689 on: March 04, 2012, 06:15:56 PM »
Makoun can't tackle. But he is better than any of our current (midfield) players at closing down opposition. Which is something our midfield is quite bad at. In fact, the concept of defending without closing down opposition has brought us much trouble this season.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1690 on: March 04, 2012, 06:18:10 PM »

  But who do you appoint?

  Do you go down the route of having an up and coming manager, and take the risk that the current players treat him with as much contempt as they did the previous two managers, or do you go for a big name, but did'nt we have that in MON and Hou?


For me, I think any manager that allows/trains the team to be attack minded will get a response from the players.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1691 on: March 04, 2012, 06:22:28 PM »
Makoun can't tackle. But he is better than any of our current (midfield) players at closing down opposition. Which is something our midfield is quite bad at. In fact, the concept of defending without closing down opposition has brought us much trouble this season.

I think this was one of the reasons MoN managed to get our team to do as well as they did...

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1692 on: March 04, 2012, 06:23:27 PM »
This "Makoun can't tackle"nonsense seems to be based entirely on one bad challenge at Blackpool that got him a red card.  Ludicrous to write him off on the basis of one challenge.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1693 on: March 04, 2012, 06:24:21 PM »
Makoun also reads the game much better than our others. His jettison was odd so soon.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1694 on: March 04, 2012, 06:31:17 PM »
Makoun would be a very good player for us and the decision was fucking mental. Actually no it wasn't, it was very in keeping with the general decisions made by Mcleish.

 


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