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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1650 on: March 04, 2012, 01:52:53 PM »
It's so sad that we are the only club that seem to accept terrible results and performances without reprisals for the manager.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1651 on: March 04, 2012, 01:54:44 PM »
As I listen to AM tell us that it is not his fault for the defensive performances I wonder what he actually does all week with the players? Are they deliberately ignoringhim then? For waht reason would they do that?

He has now intimated that we do not have enough class in the side and that he is not a magician. He sounds like a man floundering under the pressure.

Remember when he said we just had to win the match (Wigan?) and the reporter asked "how will you do that?" and he had no answer? Says it all...

At least Newcastle fucked MoN over in injury time...

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1652 on: March 04, 2012, 02:00:39 PM »
You would hope that as Villa's big expenditure on Bent in the January transfer window last season inspired Chelsea to move for Torres, Villa would reciprocate Chelsea's inspired move now.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1653 on: March 04, 2012, 02:23:52 PM »
The Chelsea job is worse than the England job, in terms of no win situation and expectances are so high - well, from the owner anyway. He's too quick to get rid.

Back to Villa, he won't go. Next season is the one I fear. Unless things change at the top, I see our better players leaving being replaced by sh*te.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1654 on: March 04, 2012, 02:40:08 PM »
Yet another game where it is sad to see the demise of out famous club all because AM has not got a clue and doesn't care about the people who pay his wages. Come on Randy do the decent thing and get rid of him before we fall from grace.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1655 on: March 04, 2012, 02:43:18 PM »

  I'm caught in two minds about McL.

  I thought it was the wrong appointment at the time, and he has done nothing to change my mind.The performances/approach to  the games against Spuds/Ure/Lplop and Citeeh were completely unacceptable for a club the size of Villa.

 However, after seeing how much we had to pay in compensation to the 2 previous incumbants, then i'm not sure we can keep affording to pay these amounts of money.On top of that i think with McL taking all the criticism , it has allowed some of the high earners at the club to get away with sub-standard performances.Houillier criticised the attitudes of some of the big named players, they were shit then, and mostly shit now.Two managers, same result, will they be the same under another manager.

 Personally, for the sake of the future good will of the club, i think McL will have to go in the summer, but who next, i'm not sure.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1656 on: March 04, 2012, 02:50:29 PM »
Good time to play Baggies, last two opponents have sacked managers afterwards, suits us fine.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1657 on: March 04, 2012, 02:51:39 PM »
Good time to play Baggies, last two opponents have sacked managers afterwards, suits us fine.

Haha yeah, the manager-sacking-curse has moved slightly across WM to the Hawthorns, hasn't it? Something about losing to West Brom must be terminally frustrating for everyone.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1658 on: March 04, 2012, 03:06:47 PM »
I agree with you BLF.   Your observations are correct in my opinion.

I too thought he was the wrong appointment at the time and have seen nothing to make me change my mind.   However, all the venom being hurled at him masks the very flaky and downright bad performances by many of our players.

Dave Woodhall pointed out most perceptively some time ago that these are professional footballers who have been playing the game since they were boys.   They should not need the manager to instill basic match sense into them.

The bizarre theme of this seasons performances suggests that they have the physical skills but their intellects are ultra fragile.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1659 on: March 04, 2012, 03:09:28 PM »
If we lose against Fulham I think he's toast

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1660 on: March 04, 2012, 03:15:31 PM »
If we lose against Fulham I think he's toast

Disagree, sadly.

I genuinely don't think he'd get the bullet if he got us relegated.

It's all about saving money, and changing manager costs.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1661 on: March 04, 2012, 03:15:44 PM »
I agree with you BLF.   Your observations are correct in my opinion.

I too thought he was the wrong appointment at the time and have seen nothing to make me change my mind.   However, all the venom being hurled at him masks the very flaky and downright bad performances by many of our players.

Dave Woodhall pointed out most perceptively some time ago that these are professional footballers who have been playing the game since they were boys.   They should not need the manager to instill basic match sense into them.

The bizarre theme of this seasons performances suggests that they have the physical skills but their intellects are ultra fragile.

Oh it's very true that they players are culpable in this as well, as they were last year. However my view of Mcleish is much the same in that I never thought he was the right man, I gave him a chance but I've just seen nothing to suggest he will ever improve. I think he should be sacked, as I believe there's a good chance we could go down under him. I also want an overhaul of the squad in the summer to address the under performing players, but I want that overhaul to be done by a manager who I believe will help Aston Villa progress.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1662 on: March 04, 2012, 03:24:08 PM »


Dave Woodhall pointed out most perceptively some time ago that these are professional footballers who have been playing the game since they were boys.   They should not need the manager to instill basic match sense into them.



No.

But they need a manager to have a plan, to highlight the opposition's weakspots and exploit them. 

We don't have that sort of manager - and that's a pretty big handicap. 

We also have some pretty shit professionals too, of course.  And that doesn't help matters either.  Hopefully they'll bombed out in the summer along with him.

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1663 on: March 04, 2012, 03:28:32 PM »

Dave Woodhall pointed out most perceptively some time ago that these are professional footballers who have been playing the game since they were boys.   They should not need the manager to instill basic match sense into them.


No.

But they need a manager to have a plan, to highlight the opposition's weakspots and exploit them. 
 

Have to agree with that. A violinist may have been playing from the age of 7, but may still need a conductor to lead and synthesise their skills with other musicians in an orchestra. 

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Re: Should AM be sacked? Poll reset after Blackburn Rovers [Reply#1506]
« Reply #1664 on: March 04, 2012, 04:20:44 PM »
Where is Chris actually I haven't seen any posts from him for ages?

Gone to join Disco Stu (with any luck!)

 


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