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Author Topic: AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.  (Read 1841846 times)

Offline Damo70

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1455 on: March 02, 2012, 10:00:56 AM »
He said that not a lot of managers could do a lot better job than he is doing at the moment. So he seems to accept that some managers could do a somewhat better job. But I still don't think we would gain by sacking him now. Does anyone think Wolves chances of staying up have dramatically improved by replacing McCarthy with Connor? Even QPR will continue to struggle until Hughes has a full pre-season there. As for people questioning why Andy Watson didn't come with him from Blues, I heard they fell out because AM kept Watson in the dark over his Villa talks and eventual move.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1456 on: March 02, 2012, 10:11:12 AM »
Rather predictably, he's playing the 'I know the fans don't like me but please support the team,' card. Which misses the point; we're unhappy because of what we're seeing from the team, and he's responsible for that. It's not personal.

Very worrying, his latest quotes. Do Ireland, Albrighton, N'Zogbia, Agbonlahor, Bannan purposefully go out and curb their natural game? Or, if they're not fulfilling the manager's instructions - to play more positively, apparently - why are they not listening to him?

McLeish is beginning to distance himself from all responsibility; it's a tough job (one of the toughest in football, apparently), the club is struggling financially, the players aren't playing. He has to take some responsibility for that. He's beginning to sound very much like one of his predecessors.


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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1457 on: March 02, 2012, 10:13:00 AM »
I can think of a lot of people that could have done a better job, For one and it fucking pains me to say it, Martin O'Neill

MON only had Plan A but at least he had a plan. I think that virtually all of the other managers in the PL would have done better than McLeish. For starters he arrived with too much baggage and secondly, he just doesn't seem to have a clue how to get his teams doing the most basic of things.

I can barely bring myself to listen to his press conferences now. He's a dead man walking and it makes me cringe to listen to the crap which he comes out with. It really quite embarrassing.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1458 on: March 02, 2012, 10:33:45 AM »
The pressure is building upon McLeish and that's not not for our club. The only way he will get sacked is if we get relegated. I don't want that and I don't think we will . So I am afraid we have him for at least another season. That would be another two years wasted in the history of Aston Villa.

spot on . Its not fun supporting Villa at the moment and another season of this dire rubbish and the crowds will be lower next season.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1459 on: March 02, 2012, 10:35:35 AM »
. I've not got a magic wand and I don't think there are a lot of managers who could do a lot better than the job I am doing just now."



get this clown out now !!!!

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1460 on: March 02, 2012, 12:10:13 PM »
I can think of a lot of people that could have done a better job, For one and it fucking pains me to say it, Martin O'Neill

MON only had Plan A but at least he had a plan. I think that virtually all of the other managers in the PL would have done better than McLeish. For starters he arrived with too much baggage and secondly, he just doesn't seem to have a clue how to get his teams doing the most basic of things.

I can barely bring myself to listen to his press conferences now. He's a dead man walking and it makes me cringe to listen to the crap which he comes out with. It really quite embarrassing.

Those words "Dead man Walking"  are being used a lot these days to AMc

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1461 on: March 02, 2012, 12:21:52 PM »
. I've not got a magic wand and I don't think there are a lot of managers who could do a lot better than the job I am doing just now."



Sooty has a magic wand

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1462 on: March 02, 2012, 12:33:41 PM »
. I've not got a magic wand and I don't think there are a lot of managers who could do a lot better than the job I am doing just now."



Sooty has a magic wand

Never liked Sooty.
Always whispering in Mr Corbett's ear.

If you've got something to say, say it to all of us you c***.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1463 on: March 02, 2012, 12:39:25 PM »
This notion he subscribes to that "results matter more than performances" is such an odd one. Yes, we can all point to times when teams win against the run of play, or snatch draws when the opposition out-perform them, but by and large the team who plays better on the day will win. That's what all the teams at the top have in common - they tend to dominate games and win them. We could control more games, with our technically gifted players you could argue we should be, and thus win more games AND be more entertaining, because actually the two usually go hand in hand. (Also, as an aside, you can control the games without the ball if you're brilliant at counter-attacking. 1-0 up under MON, the opposition are attacking but you control the game because of your attacking threat. Which, incidentally, is pretty entertaining.)

This idea that you can't rely on controlling games to win them, which in reality apply the vast minority of the time, is really pathetic and typically passive. It shows up how little he believes in himself, how he isn't brave enough to be proactive. He is regressive, out of his depth and inadequate. He needs to go.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1464 on: March 02, 2012, 12:47:41 PM »
He said that not a lot of managers could do a lot better job than he is doing at the moment. So he seems to accept that some managers could do a somewhat better job. But I still don't think we would gain by sacking him now. Does anyone think Wolves chances of staying up have dramatically improved by replacing McCarthy with Connor? Even QPR will continue to struggle until Hughes has a full pre-season there. As for people questioning why Andy Watson didn't come with him from Blues, I heard they fell out because AM kept Watson in the dark over his Villa talks and eventual move.
you got to love our under the table tactics to get the shittest manager possible. Well done team.

Online Mister E

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1465 on: March 02, 2012, 02:25:32 PM »
This notion he subscribes to that "results matter more than performances" is such an odd one. Yes, we can all point to times when teams win against the run of play, or snatch draws when the opposition out-perform them, but by and large the team who plays better on the day will win. That's what all the teams at the top have in common - they tend to dominate games and win them. We could control more games, with our technically gifted players you could argue we should be, and thus win more games AND be more entertaining, because actually the two usually go hand in hand. (Also, as an aside, you can control the games without the ball if you're brilliant at counter-attacking. 1-0 up under MON, the opposition are attacking but you control the game because of your attacking threat. Which, incidentally, is pretty entertaining.)

This idea that you can't rely on controlling games to win them, which in reality apply the vast minority of the time, is really pathetic and typically passive. It shows up how little he believes in himself, how he isn't brave enough to be proactive. He is regressive, out of his depth and inadequate. He needs to go.
Well argued re perofrmance and results - let's now look at these results of his: oh, a 23% win rate?
does he really think that's good enough?

Offline Phil from the upper holte

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1466 on: March 02, 2012, 03:23:49 PM »
Sack mcleish and get Cowans and K mac until the end of the season, its simple really

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1467 on: March 02, 2012, 03:29:09 PM »
. I've not got a magic wand and I don't think there are a lot of managers who could do a lot better than the job I am doing just now."



Sooty has a magic wand

Never liked Sooty.
Always whispering in Mr Corbett's ear.

If you've got something to say, say it to all of us you c***.

Ah that made me chuckle.

Offline itbrvilla

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1468 on: March 02, 2012, 04:40:15 PM »
Just read a few articles on tea talk from him. He lives in fantasy land. How depressing that he's our manager. I think fans of other clubs should protest for the greater good just so nobody ever has tO witness his dire football.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1469 on: March 02, 2012, 06:02:08 PM »
The useless lump has been bleating about how wonderful his relationship with Randy is and how much he is looking forward to putting his own stamp on the squad this summer. God fucking help us!

 


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