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Offline bertlambshank

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1260 on: February 27, 2012, 10:33:46 PM »
He was going to turn jeers to cheers in September, he's Fuckin useless
But the compo we paid the shit as probably stopped them from going into
Administration.Nice one Randy.

Offline Chipsticks

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1261 on: February 27, 2012, 10:43:27 PM »
He was going to turn jeers to cheers in September, he's Fuckin useless
But the compo we paid the shit as probably stopped them from going into
Administration.Nice one Randy.

To be fair, they did sell almost their entire team, I doubt our compensation made too much of a difference. I think it was their recent Southampton game in which only 2 members of the side played in the Carling Cup final.

Something like that. I'm never going to be a statistician.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1262 on: February 28, 2012, 01:30:21 AM »
To be honest Id have more confidence in McDonald, Cowans and McAndrews managing the team to the end of the season. McLeish and Grant have more relegations on their CV's than probably any management team in the entire football league. That worry has definitely spread to the players and fans.

Picking a manager without removing Faulkner and Lerner maybe pointless but we need to start thinking about who the coach will be next season. Fuck knows our ambition has collapsed but we could do a lot worse than Chris Hughton. He has inherited 2 clubs that were an absolute shambles, united them and got them performing to the best of their ability, playing good football. He has more experience in the management game than Lambert and Rodgers and has managed jobs that no one really wanted to touch. That would be perfect for us next season.

Play off failure for Bham the best result for us. Hughton's remarkable job at City wont have gone unnoticed elsewhere.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1263 on: February 28, 2012, 02:03:04 AM »
He was going to turn jeers to cheers in September, he's Fuckin useless
But the compo we paid the shit as probably stopped them from going into
Administration.Nice one Randy.

Christ almighty, what a terrifying thought; we pay them compo for McLeish, this keeps them in business, McLeish gets us relegated and they get promoted. Its like a Shakespearean tragedy.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1264 on: February 28, 2012, 02:11:13 AM »
He was going to turn jeers to cheers in September, he's Fuckin useless
But the compo we paid the shit as probably stopped them from going into
Administration.Nice one Randy.

Christ almighty, what a terrifying thought; we pay them compo for McLeish, this keeps them in business, McLeish gets us relegated and they get promoted. Its like a Shakespearean tragedy.

and Hughton takes them back up to the premier league at the same time while we go down.

Faulkner has to go after the McLeish debacle. There are no ifs or buts about it.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1265 on: February 28, 2012, 02:14:28 AM »

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1266 on: February 28, 2012, 02:14:53 AM »
We have managed to beat ONE team you could consider half decent - Chelsea ...........the other 5 wins
over newly promoted Norwich and the four propping up the table ...........can't recall being so downhearted
and despondent watching what was happening in front of me at JJB on saturday -

Surely we can muster enough points to avoid the Championship ? It will need an upturn in performance
to beat Fulham & Bolton on our own patch and I can see Blackburn turning us over this weekend -

Should McLeish be sacked now ?- yes
but I don't think it will happen - Randy appears to be stubborn       

Ironic , he only beat one team in the top ten last season . Chelsea

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1267 on: February 28, 2012, 04:39:48 AM »
I'd like to see someone like lambert get villa job, young and ambitious and wants to play football.

The only thing is I can't see are board going for someone like that if we did sack AM.

No offence, but Lambert does not represent "good" football.  He even acknowledges that MONīs an inspiration for him (from his days at Celtic).  This has hopefully been diluted by doing his badges in germany, however I do not think plays good football. 

Now I am not saying he is not a good manger but lets not confuse good football with the structured approach that Lambert uses at Norwich.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1268 on: February 28, 2012, 05:06:36 AM »
we don't even have 30 points.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1269 on: February 28, 2012, 07:50:51 AM »
The question is where the tipping point is for RL.

That's a very good point.

I think it's pretty much relegation or a very real threat of relegation.  In all fairness, with the bunch on players we have any manager getting us into that position would deserve the bullet anyway.

But do you think RL has any concept of relegation??? Moreover Faulkner is probably still telling him (and AM) that we can qualify for Europe.  It's akin to Cameron and Lansley pushing ahead with the NHS reforms whilst everyone else can see it is a disaster and have pulled support from it. Therefore AM will not be sacked in my opinion come what may?

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1270 on: February 28, 2012, 08:25:36 AM »
we don't even have 30 points.
Nor 30 goals.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1271 on: February 28, 2012, 09:58:46 AM »


Faulkner has to go after the McLeish debacle. There are no ifs or buts about it.
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Has their ever been a more unambitious appointment in football?

By the way, that stat on us having neither 30 goals nor 30 points at this stage of the season is absolutely shocking. It's hard to fathom.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1272 on: February 28, 2012, 10:42:20 AM »
Christ almighty, what a terrifying thought; we pay them compo for McLeish, this keeps them in business, McLeish gets us relegated and they get promoted. Its like a Shakespearean tragedy.

In so far as it's a work of fiction, then yes it is.

I doubt the compensation was enough to keep them going and we are real outsiders for the drop.  The most likely part of that is them coming back up, and even then they're 5th with a 7 point gap to 2nd, so a play off place is more likely.

There's plenty to complain about as it is without us inventing possible scenarios to add to the hysteria.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1273 on: February 28, 2012, 10:51:16 AM »
Christ almighty, what a terrifying thought; we pay them compo for McLeish, this keeps them in business, McLeish gets us relegated and they get promoted. Its like a Shakespearean tragedy.

In so far as it's a work of fiction, then yes it is.

I doubt the compensation was enough to keep them going and we are real outsiders for the drop.  The most likely part of that is them coming back up, and even then they're 5th with a 7 point gap to 2nd, so a play off place is more likely.

There's plenty to complain about as it is without us inventing possible scenarios to add to the hysteria.

My post was so obviously serious I suppose. No one could ever mistake it for a joke, no way.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1274 on: February 28, 2012, 11:00:39 AM »
We need to persuade Eck to throw in the towel. 3 Prem relegations must prevent further top level employment, and he could use fan unrest, etcetc as a reason. He knows deep down he is unwanted, even in the very unlikely chance we stay up. Its not just the sty connections,[don't help tho], its the stifling, boring, useless, play for a 0-1 defeat, refusing to attack style. FOR GODS SAKE ECK.......... GO.

 


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