AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[andyh]

Not quite sure people who are saying they will boycott a game are to be deemed 'wankers'.
Surely its their perogative ? Because their opinion is different to yours, they are wankers ?

There are 39 people on here who don't want Mcleish sacked, I don't agree with them, but I don't think they are wankers.

I won't ever boycott a game, but I have some sympathy with those who are concerned enough to do so.

 

[PaulWinch again]

I am now at the stage of almost screaming in frustration every time we play. At the moment there looks like there is no hope, this is two seasons in a row that at this stage we've been getting pulled towards the drop zone. The board haven't got a clue what they're doing, Mcleish is the wrong man and nothing on this earth is going to change that fact.

[saunders_heroes]

Not quite sure people who are saying they will boycott a game are to be deemed 'wankers'.
Surely its their perogative ? Because their opinion is different to yours, they are wankers ?

There are 39 people on here who don't want Mcleish sacked, I don't agree with them, but I don't think they are wankers.

I won't ever boycott a game, but I have some sympathy with those who are concerned enough to do so.

 

Anyone calling for fans to turn their back on the club when it needs their support more than ever deserves all the stick they get.

[LeeB]

Keown thinks the villa fans need to lower their expectations: http://www.sundaymercury.net/midlands-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-fc-news/2012/02/26/martin-keown-says-aston-villa-fans-need-a-reality-check-66331-30407347/

Keown needs to fuck off the Chimp looking inbred and worry about his own team.

Superb.

[lovejoy]

Tell me who we would bring in at this point of the season? Remember when we changed our manager in the summer with many options available added to the ease of getting someone in the close season.

[ozzjim]

Not quite sure people who are saying they will boycott a game are to be deemed 'wankers'.
Surely its their perogative ? Because their opinion is different to yours, they are wankers ?

There are 39 people on here who don't want Mcleish sacked, I don't agree with them, but I don't think they are wankers.

I won't ever boycott a game, but I have some sympathy with those who are concerned enough to do so.

 

Anyone calling for fans to turn their back on the club when it needs their support more than ever deserves all the stick they get.

It is a catch 22 though. As the people running it are clearly not caring what the fans think, so the only way to get through to them is to boycott games/ chant about wanting the manager out. Simple truth is turning up and unreservedly supporting the side validates the way the club is going. I did not renew this season largely due to the managerial appointment. I want to be entertained and enjoy my 600 quid outlay. I knew there was little chance of that. The kids and family have used the money to go to play centres etc at the weekends, and it brings me a lot more enjoyment than watching Villa under McLeish. Nothing is black and white, and neither side is right or wrong, as both are essentially wanting what is best for the club.

[ozzjim]

Tell me who we would bring in at this point of the season? Remember when we changed our manager in the summer with many options available added to the ease of getting someone in the close season.

I would be sorely tempted to give Curbishley 18 months. Where we are at the moment he might be able to get some performances out of us and at least has a clue.

Alternatively, Zola and Willkins would be going back to more of the way Houllier wanted to play, without the dire constraints they had at West Ham.

Either are better than McLeish.

Most good managers in the Championship would take it like a shot too.

[CJ]

I think yesterday may be a turning point for McLeish. For the first time the away fans, who've been absolutely magnificent this season (and to my regret I stopped going to any away games last season for one reason or another) turned on him wholeheartedly for the first time.  He's admitted it wasn't 'water off a duck's back' and I think this may sting him into a reaction. What that reaction is remains to be seen but I think he'll be more nervous of serving up any more dire performances.  If he's capable of that of course

[saunders_heroes]

I've stuck up for McLeish since the start of the year because I felt we started to play some decent stuff and had some unlucky results, but the last two games have been truly awful. He set the team up to get 0-0 draws. That is criminal down the Villa. I want him out, but at the end of the season, not now. I think it would be suicide to sack a manager this late into a season. I wouldn't trust Lerner to employ a decent manager anyway.

[Mister E]

Not quite sure people who are saying they will boycott a game are to be deemed 'wankers'.
Surely its their perogative ? Because their opinion is different to yours, they are wankers ?

There are 39 people on here who don't want Mcleish sacked, I don't agree with them, but I don't think they are wankers.

I won't ever boycott a game, but I have some sympathy with those who are concerned enough to do so.

 

Anyone calling for fans to turn their back on the club when it needs their support more than ever deserves all the stick they get.

I do have some sympathy with the view that if we can amass enough points for safety, then boycotting the remaining games might have some impact where other tactics would not...
... but it gives me no pleasure saying that.

[Mister E]

I think yesterday may be a turning point for McLeish. For the first time the away fans, who've been absolutely magnificent this season (and to my regret I stopped going to any away games last season for one reason or another) turned on him wholeheartedly for the first time.  He's admitted it wasn't 'water off a duck's back' and I think this may sting him into a reaction. What that reaction is remains to be seen but I think he'll be more nervous of serving up any more dire performances.  If he's capable of that of course

Yesterday was a turning point - see my post on page 69 (I think), where I made the very same comment.
My worry with a reaction from McL is it may be interpreted by the players as a sign of indecision / cluelessness / pandering - players who, I think, are already not sure what the manager expects of them or at least does not buy into his tactics. Taking yesterday as an example, when he and Grant were shouting and gesticulating at various players, there were looks of confusion given in return.

[pauliewalnuts]

How can one hundred million buy such brittle and rotten foundations? The scale of collapse since O'Neill vindictively left the club is unreal. Not even an English middle order collapse is comparable. We're left hoping we stay up for a second year in a row. The monumental lack of thought in dithering last September and then appointing Houllier, spending five million to get rid, only to be followed up by spending Christ knows what on getting Mcliesh here, defies any sort of logic.

Couple that with the awful negative and fearful football that has produced just six wins, not one at home since November and it leads me to the conclusion that three owner, board and manager are an appalling disgrace.

We'll stay up and comfortably too, but nothing will change and the squad will get smaller and weaker until it becomes a real effort staying in the league.

With the exception of the last paragraph, which I am not so convinced on, my view exactly.

[Legion]

We'll stay up but it won't be comfortably.

[Bad English]

I have trained my brain to conjure up a mental image of Audrey Fleuret whenever the name Alex McLeish is mentioned. It's better than crack.

I had to google this. Audrey Fleuret gives a load of images of people fencing while Audrey Fleurot shows an attractive ginger haired lady who would make a rather more pleasant mental image than Alex McLeish. Each to their own however.

Edited. Ta!

[pauliewalnuts]

The ginger lawyer in (the superb) Spiral?

She lovely.