AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[SheffieldVillain]

Get fukin rid. Caretaker for rest of season and bring in Moyes with a decent war chest. Football really is simple.

On Football Manager I'm sure it is. In the real world, Moyes gets a choice whether to come or not.

Stay at Everton no money or come to a bigger club with money to spend? Ain't a difficult decision.

1. There isn't money to spend.
2. Everton are higher than us in the table and still in the Cup.
3. He already said in the summer that he wouldn't come to Villa.

[eastie]

Get fukin rid. Caretaker for rest of season and bring in Moyes with a decent war chest. Football really is simple.

On Football Manager I'm sure it is. In the real world, Moyes gets a choice whether to come or not.

Stay at Everton no money or come to a bigger club with money to spend? Ain't a difficult decision.

I doubt moyes would see villa as bigger than everton and i cannot see him coming to villa unless guaranteed mega money to spend- no chance of him coming here.

[olaftab]

Most of us thought It was a crap decision by the Board to appoint him and he is absolutley proving us right. I wish that was not the case but....

[paul_e]

I don't think the problem today was anything to do with being too defensive or picking a team that was too defensive. It was purely that we were shit in possession of the football and created absolutely nothing despite the team having Gabby, Keane, Bent, Albrighton, Bannan and Gardner in it. That is not a defensive line-up.

This is the argument that I'm fed up of hearing now.

Picking lots of attacking players does not make you an attacking manager and does not make good attacking football.  To play the right football to make the most of our attacking talent we need to keep hold of the ball better and we need everyone to be looking to make themselves available for the pass.  The current situation is that the players are static and lots of people are trying to hide, which forces the safety first shit we're getting used to.

Show me where in my post I said that picking lots of attacking players makes good attacking football? In fact, if you reread it, you'll see that I'm actually saying that our attacking play was crap. It doesn't necessarily follow though that the set-up of the team was defensive.

You said you don't think the problem was with being defensive, that's the bit I have issue with.  The problem is that the entire setup of the club is defensive and leads to us being shit in possession, no changes on the pitch are going to have any major effect so we're stuck relying on individual brilliance (like Keane vs Wolves).  This is the underlying issue and it's 100% McLeish's fault, that he drops the player we have who can getting us playing because of his lack of defensive abilities tells you everything about the man.

[paul_e]

I don't understand the calls for Moyes, does anyone on here actually like watching Everton?  If we're going to look at managers that are a little unrealistic there have got to be better options.  If you remove the pathetic 'premier league experience' line you'll find lots of people worth talking to.

[pauliewalnuts]

Compass have you been playing about with Ecks wiki page?

Tell the truth you little rascal!

Whoever did that, according to the history of the wiki page, did so from 69.255.219.24, which belongs to a US ISP in Maryland.

Nice one pelty!

No, but checking for posters using that IP address on here, I can reveal it is one of us.

[tarzansbrother]

Get fukin rid. Caretaker for rest of season and bring in Moyes with a decent war chest. Football really is simple.

On Football Manager I'm sure it is. In the real world, Moyes gets a choice whether to come or not.

Stay at Everton no money or come to a bigger club with money to spend? Ain't a difficult decision.

1. There isn't money to spend.
2. Everton are higher than us in the table and still in the Cup.
3. He already said in the summer that he wouldn't come to Villa.

Lerner decides if there is money to spend. Everton are bankrupt, and where did he say he wouldn't join villa? If this rotten apple needs to be in charge for a season to reduce the wage bill then so be it. Moyes would jump at the chance to manage our fine club if money was made available.

[dishy]

i cant believe 11 people voted No, AM must have his family posting on here!!

[Jimmy Smash]

A lot of ifs there Paulie.

[The Adventurer]

Voted Yes! Sadly wanted Big Eck to succeed but it just hasnt worked for him or us!!

As for a replacement? God knows! 

[preston28]

I voted NO. As much as I know AM is not the right man I cannot see the benefits of sacking him now? It would leave the team in more turmoil than it is now and more importanlty who would replace him? Mick Mcarthy, Curbishly, Lee Clark??

We need some stability - sacking him leads to another manager, coaching staff and new ideas  that some of our clueless players have to adapt to.

It is a right mess at the moment and also a catch 22 situation.

[SheffieldVillain]

Get fukin rid. Caretaker for rest of season and bring in Moyes with a decent war chest. Football really is simple.

On Football Manager I'm sure it is. In the real world, Moyes gets a choice whether to come or not.

Stay at Everton no money or come to a bigger club with money to spend? Ain't a difficult decision.

1. There isn't money to spend.
2. Everton are higher than us in the table and still in the Cup.
3. He already said in the summer that he wouldn't come to Villa.

Lerner decides if there is money to spend. Everton are bankrupt, and where did he say he wouldn't join villa? If this rotten apple needs to be in charge for a season to reduce the wage bill then so be it. Moyes would jump at the chance to manage our fine club if money was made available.

Well, here for one. The bit where he says "I'm not interested anyway."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/21/david-moyes-aston-villa-denial
 

[Irish villain]

Why don't our board just go and get somebody decent to manage us whenever the post is vacant? If you need to poach a manager you bloody well poach him. The criteria that they have set down each time there has been a vacancy has landed us with the wrong manager at the wrong time.

Gregory, Little, Atkinson were all poached where has this bollocks about Premier League experience and being out of work come from?

[Irish villain]

Ian Taylor tweet: 'Afraid the fans have had enough. The most hostile I've heard towards the manager. They spend their cash and entitled to vent frustration.'

[tarzansbrother]

Get fukin rid. Caretaker for rest of season and bring in Moyes with a decent war chest. Football really is simple.

On Football Manager I'm sure it is. In the real world, Moyes gets a choice whether to come or not.

Stay at Everton no money or come to a bigger club with money to spend? Ain't a difficult decision.

1. There isn't money to spend.
2. Everton are higher than us in the table and still in the Cup.
3. He already said in the summer that he wouldn't come to Villa.

Lerner decides if there is money to spend. Everton are bankrupt, and where did he say he wouldn't join villa? If this rotten apple needs to be in charge for a season to reduce the wage bill then so be it. Moyes would jump at the chance to manage our fine club if money was made available.

Well, here for one. The bit where he says "I'm not interested anyway."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/21/david-moyes-aston-villa-denial
 

That was while Gerrard was in charge. Completely different if the post is free with money to spend.