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Offline eastie

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #840 on: February 25, 2012, 06:13:50 PM »
Having supported the club through good and bad over 33 years i have to say ive never felt so low as this season - randy must take the vast amount of blame for the situation and although not a great fan if mon i must admit i can see now why he walked- lerner and faulkner are taking this club down and the manager is on a par with billy mcneill if not worse- a very sad state of affairs indeed!

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #841 on: February 25, 2012, 06:14:11 PM »
We're in deep shit with McLeish in charge. At least if he was sacked it would lift the mood up and we could be seeing players free from the shackles that our rubbish manager has enforced on them. We'll probably see quality players like Ireland and N'Zogbia starting before Heskey. Gardner also had no attack role today. What a waste of talent.

1. Heskey didn't start before Ireland and N'Zogbia. They all came on as subs.
2. Who in the midfield today would you have asked to play the Petrov role protecting the back four then if not Gardner - Bannan? Gabby? You can't have a midfield that are all playing just off the front two.

I don't think the problem today was anything to do with being too defensive or picking a team that was too defensive. It was purely that we were shit in possession of the football and created absolutely nothing despite the team having Gabby, Keane, Bent, Albrighton, Bannan and Gardner in it. That is not a defensive line-up.

1. Heskey came on the pitch before Ireland and N'Zogbia. He was McLeish's first sub so he started before them. He also started in the Man City again before Ireland and Zog.

2. Herd.

The players have shown they can keep the ball against teams lately. It's the fact Alex has this terrible mentality of playing deep at the start of the match that we have no shape at bringing the ball forward well enough.

I would sack him now and allow a caretaker to take over to the end of the season. They cannot be any worse than McLeish. He is the cancer of football.
That last comment was crap.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #842 on: February 25, 2012, 06:15:19 PM »
I want him gone now because if we do go down he will be kept in the job because he has a track record of getting the teams he has relegated back up.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #843 on: February 25, 2012, 06:15:51 PM »
We're in deep shit with McLeish in charge. At least if he was sacked it would lift the mood up and we could be seeing players free from the shackles that our rubbish manager has enforced on them. We'll probably see quality players like Ireland and N'Zogbia starting before Heskey. Gardner also had no attack role today. What a waste of talent.

1. Heskey didn't start before Ireland and N'Zogbia. They all came on as subs. If you're going to make criticisms at least make them based on fact.
2. Who in the midfield today would you have asked to play the Petrov role protecting the back four then if not Gardner - Bannan? Gabby? You can't have a midfield that are all playing just off the front two.

I don't think the problem today was anything to do with being too defensive or picking a team that was too defensive. It was purely that we were shit in possession of the football and created absolutely nothing despite the team having Gabby, Keane, Bent, Albrighton, Bannan and Gardner in it. That is not a defensive line-up.

This is the argument that I'm fed up of hearing now.

Picking lots of attacking players does not make you an attacking manager and does not make good attacking football.  To play the right football to make the most of our attacking talent we need to keep hold of the ball better and we need everyone to be looking to make themselves available for the pass.  The current situation is that the players are static and lots of people are trying to hide, which forces the safety first shit we're getting used to.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #844 on: February 25, 2012, 06:16:19 PM »
Compass have you been playing about with Ecks wiki page?

Tell the truth you little rascal!

Whoever did that, according to the history of the wiki page, did so from 69.255.219.24, which belongs to a US ISP in Maryland.

Offline tarzansbrother

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #845 on: February 25, 2012, 06:17:11 PM »
Get fukin rid. Caretaker for rest of season and bring in Moyes with a decent war chest. Football really is simple.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #846 on: February 25, 2012, 06:17:34 PM »
Compass have you been playing about with Ecks wiki page?

Tell the truth you little rascal!

Whoever did that, according to the history of the wiki page, did so from 69.255.219.24, which belongs to a US ISP in Maryland.

The General?!

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #847 on: February 25, 2012, 06:18:23 PM »
We're in deep shit with McLeish in charge. At least if he was sacked it would lift the mood up and we could be seeing players free from the shackles that our rubbish manager has enforced on them. We'll probably see quality players like Ireland and N'Zogbia starting before Heskey. Gardner also had no attack role today. What a waste of talent.

1. Heskey didn't start before Ireland and N'Zogbia. They all came on as subs. If you're going to make criticisms at least make them based on fact.
2. Who in the midfield today would you have asked to play the Petrov role protecting the back four then if not Gardner - Bannan? Gabby? You can't have a midfield that are all playing just off the front two.

I don't think the problem today was anything to do with being too defensive or picking a team that was too defensive. It was purely that we were shit in possession of the football and created absolutely nothing despite the team having Gabby, Keane, Bent, Albrighton, Bannan and Gardner in it. That is not a defensive line-up.

This is the argument that I'm fed up of hearing now.

Picking lots of attacking players does not make you an attacking manager and does not make good attacking football.  To play the right football to make the most of our attacking talent we need to keep hold of the ball better and we need everyone to be looking to make themselves available for the pass.  The current situation is that the players are static and lots of people are trying to hide, which forces the safety first shit we're getting used to.

One feeds the other. The mentality and obvious lack of footballing preparation they do lead to a lack of confidence and a tendency to hide on the pitch. Players need training, help, off-field preparation. There is little evidence of this at Villa.

Offline eastie

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #848 on: February 25, 2012, 06:18:29 PM »
Compass have you been playing about with Ecks wiki page?

Tell the truth you little rascal!

Whoever did that, according to the history of the wiki page, did so from 69.255.219.24, which belongs to a US ISP in Maryland.

Nice one pelty!

Offline SheffieldVillain

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #849 on: February 25, 2012, 06:20:03 PM »
I don't think the problem today was anything to do with being too defensive or picking a team that was too defensive. It was purely that we were shit in possession of the football and created absolutely nothing despite the team having Gabby, Keane, Bent, Albrighton, Bannan and Gardner in it. That is not a defensive line-up.

This is the argument that I'm fed up of hearing now.

Picking lots of attacking players does not make you an attacking manager and does not make good attacking football.  To play the right football to make the most of our attacking talent we need to keep hold of the ball better and we need everyone to be looking to make themselves available for the pass.  The current situation is that the players are static and lots of people are trying to hide, which forces the safety first shit we're getting used to.

Show me where in my post I said that picking lots of attacking players makes good attacking football? In fact, if you reread it, you'll see that I'm actually saying that our attacking play was crap. It doesn't necessarily follow though that the set-up of the team was defensive.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #850 on: February 25, 2012, 06:20:36 PM »
Get fukin rid. Caretaker for rest of season and bring in Moyes with a decent war chest. Football really is simple.

On Football Manager I'm sure it is. In the real world, Moyes gets a choice whether to come or not.

Offline Jimmy Smash

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #851 on: February 25, 2012, 06:20:49 PM »
Compass have you been playing about with Ecks wiki page?

Tell the truth you little rascal!

Whoever did that, according to the history of the wiki page, did so from 69.255.219.24, which belongs to a US ISP in Maryland.

The General?!

Randy even! He's obviously not here watching this shite
« Last Edit: February 25, 2012, 06:23:13 PM by Jimmy Smash »

Online paul_e

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #852 on: February 25, 2012, 06:21:36 PM »
We're in deep shit with McLeish in charge. At least if he was sacked it would lift the mood up and we could be seeing players free from the shackles that our rubbish manager has enforced on them. We'll probably see quality players like Ireland and N'Zogbia starting before Heskey. Gardner also had no attack role today. What a waste of talent.

1. Heskey didn't start before Ireland and N'Zogbia. They all came on as subs. If you're going to make criticisms at least make them based on fact.
2. Who in the midfield today would you have asked to play the Petrov role protecting the back four then if not Gardner - Bannan? Gabby? You can't have a midfield that are all playing just off the front two.

I don't think the problem today was anything to do with being too defensive or picking a team that was too defensive. It was purely that we were shit in possession of the football and created absolutely nothing despite the team having Gabby, Keane, Bent, Albrighton, Bannan and Gardner in it. That is not a defensive line-up.

This is the argument that I'm fed up of hearing now.

Picking lots of attacking players does not make you an attacking manager and does not make good attacking football.  To play the right football to make the most of our attacking talent we need to keep hold of the ball better and we need everyone to be looking to make themselves available for the pass.  The current situation is that the players are static and lots of people are trying to hide, which forces the safety first shit we're getting used to.

One feeds the other. The mentality and obvious lack of footballing preparation they do lead to a lack of confidence and a tendency to hide on the pitch. Players need training, help, off-field preparation. There is little evidence of this at Villa.

Exactly, It becomes really easy to blame the players (which I think eck is now doing) in this situation and say he's trying to pick the right players, etc but the reality is the base isn't there to allow things to change so we'll never be a good attacking side whilst he's here.

Offline tarzansbrother

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #853 on: February 25, 2012, 06:23:09 PM »
Get fukin rid. Caretaker for rest of season and bring in Moyes with a decent war chest. Football really is simple.

On Football Manager I'm sure it is. In the real world, Moyes gets a choice whether to come or not.
Stay at Everton no money or come to a bigger club with money to spend? Ain't a difficult decision.

Offline Jimmy Smash

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #854 on: February 25, 2012, 06:24:15 PM »
Get fukin rid. Caretaker for rest of season and bring in Moyes with a decent war chest. Football really is simple.

On Football Manager I'm sure it is. In the real world, Moyes gets a choice whether to come or not.
Stay at Everton no money or come to a bigger club with money to spend? Ain't a difficult decision.

What planet are you on?!

 


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