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Offline Jimmy Smash

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #450 on: February 14, 2012, 06:34:23 PM »
Bar the fact that Hart made a great save from Bent, I struggle to see how anyone could say we were unlucky to get nothing from that match going on the rest of it.


Thats fine but study your own statement then study the game, the facts are that only one goalkeeper (Hart) had to make a great save in the entire match as City created very little in the way of clear chances also.  Most neutral observers would say that we deserved a point across the whole 90 mins of "action".  Get used to it as McLeish is going nowhere in the immediate future.

And when they hit the post..?

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #451 on: February 14, 2012, 06:35:37 PM »
It was ugly to watch but effective for the most part.
'Effective for the most part' doesn't get you a result.
The approach failed, and as a spectacle, it was as dull as dishwater.

That said, the real culprit still get's off lightly whilst McLeish has to weather the shit storm.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #452 on: February 14, 2012, 06:39:10 PM »
The scoreline was not a fair reflection on the game, we were awful. You will never progress if you take that approach against the teams above us. There are teams with much less talented players than us who have beaten Liverpool, Man utd, Man Citeh, Spurs etc because they have had a go. That is the only way you will ever succeed and progress.

Offline villadelph

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #453 on: February 14, 2012, 06:48:00 PM »
The scoreline was not a fair reflection on the game, we were awful. You will never progress if you take that approach against the teams above us. There are teams with much less talented players than us who have beaten Liverpool, Man utd, Man Citeh, Spurs etc because they have had a go. That is the only way you will ever succeed and progress.


We all see it.. but does Randy?

Where is our owner?!

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #454 on: February 14, 2012, 06:50:27 PM »
What I don't get is our apparent reluctance to close opposition players down. We just stand off and invite pressure and it's happened so many times it looks like it's a deliberate tactic.

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #455 on: February 14, 2012, 06:52:37 PM »
What I don't get is our apparent reluctance to close opposition players down. We just stand off and invite pressure and it's happened so many times it looks like it's a deliberate tactic.
It's what often worked for him at the Blues, reaching it's nadir in the League cup final against Arsenal.
I'd like to think we have superior players to what he worked with there, so i'm puzzled at his persistence in this sleep inducing method.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #456 on: February 14, 2012, 06:55:16 PM »
I just don't think McLeish will make our team better over the long haul. He can't seem to get the best out of players who need to be making an impact in order for this club to flourish. He got Ireland to come around but cant keep him happy, never fully sorted out the backs and can't design a free-flowing offense that can successfully build the ball up to one of the most prolific strikers in the Prem. Its becoming increasingly difficult to support.

This is my first time saying this but the things I would do to have Hou back..

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #457 on: February 14, 2012, 07:46:22 PM »
For the first time in a while we defended with discipline and commitment. The price we paid for that was to sacrifice a lot of our attacking intent. It was ugly to watch but effective for the most part. It now needs to be transferred to games where we have more possession.

Calling for the manager to be sacked on the back of it is just childish.

 

Pretending people want the manager sacked because of one performance is childish too.

It wasn't effective at all - we lost - and we didn't sacrifice some of our attacking intent, we sacrificed it all.

If that's the way we are going to play going forward, then god help us, and god help anyone who has to watch us in the process.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2012, 07:47:55 PM by pauliewalnuts »

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #458 on: February 14, 2012, 07:49:50 PM »
For the first time in a while we defended with discipline and commitment. The price we paid for that was to sacrifice a lot of our attacking intent. It was ugly to watch but effective for the most part. It now needs to be transferred to games where we have more possession.

Calling for the manager to be sacked on the back of it is just childish.

 

You really believe it was on the back of that alone.

Wow.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #459 on: February 14, 2012, 07:51:54 PM »
Out of interest, this tactic of playing Heskey as another defender and not bothering to attack .. How many times has it worked?

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #460 on: February 14, 2012, 08:21:53 PM »
I do not know how many others have picked up on it but I find it very chilling that McLeish has started to put it down to luck.   His comment about Dunne's broken collar bone being more bad luck is that of a man trapped in the headlights.

When you have a run of bad luck the last thing you do is draw attention to it because it becomes self fulfilling.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #461 on: February 14, 2012, 08:38:34 PM »
Out of interest, this tactic of playing Heskey as another defender and not bothering to attack .. How many times has it worked?

You might need an abacus for that....

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #462 on: February 14, 2012, 08:48:55 PM »
Out of interest, this tactic of playing Heskey as another defender and not bothering to attack .. How many times has it worked?

You might need an abacus for that....
You can probably get away with one hand.

Hell, Captain Hook could probably get away with one hand.

Offline Billy Walker

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #463 on: February 14, 2012, 09:41:18 PM »
I do not know how many others have picked up on it but I find it very chilling that McLeish has started to put it down to luck.   His comment about Dunne's broken collar bone being more bad luck is that of a man trapped in the headlights.

When you have a run of bad luck the last thing you do is draw attention to it because it becomes self fulfilling.

I agree.  You make your own luck. 

Offline Monty

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #464 on: February 14, 2012, 09:45:51 PM »
I do not know how many others have picked up on it but I find it very chilling that McLeish has started to put it down to luck.   His comment about Dunne's broken collar bone being more bad luck is that of a man trapped in the headlights.

When you have a run of bad luck the last thing you do is draw attention to it because it becomes self fulfilling.

I agree.  You make your own luck. 

Exactly. 3 shots at home until the 80th minute is not making your own luck (neither is 9 compared to 17).

 


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