AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[Compass]

What was the fans reaction at the end of the game? My stream stopped working in the last min.

What? Mr. 'I'm a cinsiderably better fan than yow' didn't even go? For shame.

Haha, yeah I'm sure the people who went got their moneys worth and were in love with McLeish's excellent tactics all the way.

No way I'm going to pay that pile of anti football bollocks and defeatist relegation manager. Stopped since Man Utd (which was basically the same performance as City, where Utd weren't even that good, yet they still won through their training performance). But if people want to get 'behind the manager' (which the vast majority don't seeing as the atmosphere is dead), then be my guess. Root for him/the team when it makes fuck all difference seeing as McLeish isn't even looking for a win at home.

[Zhong Yi]

comment regarding the 'birmingham double' is a seriously worrying thing and something that could happen to Aston Villa F.C - lets face it, who else wins a European Cup and gets relegated 3 years later? in other words when piss poor management is at the helm, history proves these fuck ups do happen to Villa and if that one does, then the board has to go. Why on earth the chairman never speaks out is a bloody mystery, he must be one cool customer thinking a season like this and then keeping quiet about it when everyone else connected to watching the team is livid.

on the other hand, the letter, the email and the deluded press interviews by the so called manager have been amateurish and a piss take - in my opinion. I also get annoyed when in these press chats how McLeish refers to the supporters as 'the Villa fans', like he is somehow detached from the actual fans, if you see what i mean -  sounding like his heart is not really in it, doesnt give a toss, a bit like Billy McNeill actually.

sack the numbnuts now and yeah as a previous poster suggested - go back for Brian Little, a Villa man. What the club could do with right now is a Villa man, who cares. I would even have John Gregory back.

[London Villan]

The atmosphere was weird at the end. Grim resignation is probably the best description.

[Rick_avfc]

All those quotes from non villa fans makes me Embarrassed being a villa fan.  All other people realise how pathetic we are except our board, PF and RL

[Tony Boucher]

Is there a link to Yorkie's comments (video)?

[JUAN PABLO]

I look at Villa and when I see Ireland starting I just think , mayb we will see the ball on the ground . As soon
as I see heskey I just think HOOF , might win ball but header will go back to opposition .
It was 78 minutes of dire brainless football just trying not to concede a goal ,  the only time we seemed to get Man ££ty on the rack and look like scoring  was when Ireland and Nogbia were on the pitch ( and Heskey off ) ,
why oh why , he didnt start with the team that finished and have a crack at them.  Im pretty depressed this morning.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Okay, let me turn it around a little. You’re Randy Lerner, you’ve appointed a manager against all fan advice because you’ve been told, and firmly believe, that there is no man better qualified to lead Villa through a difficult period of cuts. Over the last couple of seasons you’ve forked out millions in compensation to failed managers and now 24 games into the tenure of this new manager (of whom you’ve had to compensate his old employers) it’s going wrong.

You stand to lose millions of pounds on top of the millions you’ve already paid out for previous decision AND to make things worse, you stand to have fans and press alike scream ‘I told you so’ at you.

What would you do, if you were Lerner?

When you realise your 'compensation packages' are more than your transfer budget, it's time to realise you may be in the wrong game. For all the goodwill and intentions in the world, the Premier League is a cut throat business as Randy is finding out.

[Dave Cooper please]

What was the fans reaction at the end of the game? My stream stopped working in the last min.

What? Mr. 'I'm a cinsiderably better fan than yow' didn't even go? For shame.

Haha, yeah I'm sure the people who went got their moneys worth and were in love with McLeish's excellent tactics all the way.

No way I'm going to pay that pile of anti football bollocks and defeatist relegation manager. Stopped since Man Utd (which was basically the same performance as City, where Utd weren't even that good, yet they still won through their training performance). But if people want to get 'behind the manager' (which the vast majority don't seeing as the atmosphere is dead), then be my guess. Root for him/the team when it makes fuck all difference seeing as McLeish isn't even looking for a win at home.

So to be a proper Villa fan you have to not go to Villa games?

Riiiggghhhttt!

[Rick_avfc]

How would people feel if we gave it a proper go and lost?  I know for a fact that had we played really well and had a go at city only to lose, I wouldnt have been half as depressed as im feeling now.  I could have actually held my head up high and said, "atleast we genuinely tried"

[Compass]

What was the fans reaction at the end of the game? My stream stopped working in the last min.

What? Mr. 'I'm a cinsiderably better fan than yow' didn't even go? For shame.

Haha, yeah I'm sure the people who went got their moneys worth and were in love with McLeish's excellent tactics all the way.

No way I'm going to pay that pile of anti football bollocks and defeatist relegation manager. Stopped since Man Utd (which was basically the same performance as City, where Utd weren't even that good, yet they still won through their training performance). But if people want to get 'behind the manager' (which the vast majority don't seeing as the atmosphere is dead), then be my guess. Root for him/the team when it makes fuck all difference seeing as McLeish isn't even looking for a win at home.

So to be a proper Villa fan you have to not go to Villa games?

Riiiggghhhttt!

Tell me where I said that? Good luck.

[Dante Lavelli]

SKY and the other broadcasters will also be aware of the general football fan's perception of villa too.
It's a very dangerous game Randy is playing.  I can understand trying to balance the books in order to attract a buyer but revenues could plummet next season unless something drastic happens - i.e. a new owner.

[Monty]

How would people feel if we gave it a proper go and lost?  I know for a fact that had we played really well and had a go at city only to lose, I wouldnt have been half as depressed as im feeling now.  I could have actually held my head up high and said, "atleast we genuinely tried"

I think that about every match. As long as we are brave, I don't mind so much. Obviously, intelligence is helpful to getting results as well, but while it's three points for a win and one for a draw, going for the win is always better.

The way I think about it is that, whereas if you draw all your games you get 38 points, if you win half and lose half of your games you end up with 57. Seems a pretty good vindication of attacking football if you ask me.

[eastie]

Mcleish commented how it was only a 100 or so protesting and a small minority against him, after yesterday he may not be feeling so smug as the performance, tactics and aftermatch comments were disgusting- many more now seem to have had enough of this dross!

[john e]

How would people feel if we gave it a proper go and lost?  I know for a fact that had we played really well and had a go at city only to lose, I wouldnt have been half as depressed as im feeling now.  I could have actually held my head up high and said, "atleast we genuinely tried"

we did against Arsenal, and most people were unhappy we lost but praised the team for the way they played.

[James]

A few quotes from non-villa fans on that Guardian thread..

All spot on.  Someone at the club must be concerned?

You think?