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Offline PaulWinch again

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #150 on: February 12, 2012, 07:19:52 PM »
Mcleish's interview has got to be enough for the board to say enough is enough. It was the most terrifyingly delusional load of bollocks I have seen in a long long time. I was sitting with two friends who are fans of different clubs and they were staggered, much like Dwight Yorke.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #151 on: February 12, 2012, 07:21:06 PM »
No.

Ask me in 4 games time and it may be a different answer.

What happens when there's not four games to judge him by and we're driving to fizzy pop clubs on the weekend?

There will be more than 4 games left after those 4, so that is an incredibly pointless comment.

That's not what he's saying, though, is it?

But it's what i'm saying.

If neither of you can understand, ask me in 4 matches my answer may different, then there isn't a fat lot I can do about it as it's not the most complex sentence ever written.

I took it as him making a general point about time running out rather than having a pop at your timeframes, but hey ho, maybe I can't decipher a simple sentence.

Which would be valid if i'd said "he's got until the end of the season". As that may indeed be too late. After the next 4 games, there are still 9 left which would be enough for a new manager to make an impact should it be necessary.

Offline Villanation

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #152 on: February 12, 2012, 07:21:35 PM »
Question is, who is the numpty that hired him, I wouldn't criticize McLiesh for 1 second for snapping up this job, he'd well run his course at the blouses, we all knew it was going to be like this, most of us said it would be before the ink was dry, so if we knew how come the powers at 'b' didn't when they are involved in the game itself.

As for sacking McLiesh, should have been done before Jan transfer window, should have had a new leader at the helm with a ready and waiting transfer budget, problem is if we let him go now at this late stage, who of any value and skill will want the job.

Think its a question of "you made your bed"
 

Offline Billy Walker

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #153 on: February 12, 2012, 07:22:34 PM »
I'm actually wondering if McLeish relegating us would be a good thing.

First off McLeish would surely fuck off from football. Secondly, Randy will lose ALOT of money and he'll deserve it for being so stupid. Thirdly, we can fuck off all the high earners like Dunne, Collins etc. and use more of our kids.

Maybe we need a rebirth like Newcastle? I just fear the kids won't be good enough to bring us straight back up.

I'm just fucking sick of what's going on at this club right now and think we need a major revamp where we need an ethos to play more like Swansea.

Relegation a good thing for Villa?  No.  It's not acceptable under any circumstances.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #154 on: February 12, 2012, 07:22:47 PM »
No matter how much anyone hates AM or Randy, wanting us relegated is insanity. It could take us years to bounce back just to where we are right now.

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #155 on: February 12, 2012, 07:25:53 PM »
No.

Ask me in 4 games time and it may be a different answer.

What happens when there's not four games to judge him by and we're driving to fizzy pop clubs on the weekend?

There will be more than 4 games left after those 4, so that is an incredibly pointless comment.

That's not what he's saying, though, is it?

But it's what i'm saying.

If neither of you can understand, ask me in 4 matches my answer may different, then there isn't a fat lot I can do about it as it's not the most complex sentence ever written.

I took it as him making a general point about time running out rather than having a pop at your timeframes, but hey ho, maybe I can't decipher a simple sentence.

Which would be valid if i'd said "he's got until the end of the season". As that may indeed be too late. After the next 4 games, there are still 9 left which would be enough for a new manager to make an impact should it be necessary.

And I took his point to be that there are an increasingly small number of matches left. Once again, as a general point rather than a comment on your own timeframe.

I'm genuinely not having a go at you or sticking up for him, just saying that I read it differently, that's all.

Mind you, nine games.... That timeframe reminds me of Shearer at Newcastle.

*shudder*

Offline villadelph

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #156 on: February 12, 2012, 07:27:02 PM »
No.

Ask me in 4 games time and it may be a different answer.

What happens when there's not four games to judge him by and we're driving to fizzy pop clubs on the weekend?

There will be more than 4 games left after those 4, so that is an incredibly pointless comment.

That's not what he's saying, though, is it?

But it's what i'm saying.

If neither of you can understand, ask me in 4 matches my answer may different, then there isn't a fat lot I can do about it as it's not the most complex sentence ever written.

I took it as him making a general point about time running out rather than having a pop at your timeframes, but hey ho, maybe I can't decipher a simple sentence.

Which would be valid if i'd said "he's got until the end of the season". As that may indeed be too late. After the next 4 games, there are still 9 left which would be enough for a new manager to make an impact should it be necessary.

Keep giving him slack.. keep giving him opportunity to succeed because its not going to happen. The supporters don't want it to happen, he doesn't know how to make it happen and the board doesn't care if he succeeds or not.

Maybe it'll hit you when you're on your way to Bristol City for the first game of the campaign next season.

Offline gabbyisgod

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #157 on: February 12, 2012, 07:29:29 PM »
No.

Ask me in 4 games time and it may be a different answer.

What happens when there's not four games to judge him by and we're driving to fizzy pop clubs on the weekend?

There will be more than 4 games left after those 4, so that is an incredibly pointless comment.

That's not what he's saying, though, is it?

But it's what i'm saying.

If neither of you can understand, ask me in 4 matches my answer may different, then there isn't a fat lot I can do about it as it's not the most complex sentence ever written.

I took it as him making a general point about time running out rather than having a pop at your timeframes, but hey ho, maybe I can't decipher a simple sentence.

Which would be valid if i'd said "he's got until the end of the season". As that may indeed be too late. After the next 4 games, there are still 9 left which would be enough for a new manager to make an impact should it be necessary.

Keep giving him slack.. keep giving him opportunity to succeed because its not going to happen. The supporters don't want it to happen, he doesn't know how to make it happen and the board doesn't care if he succeeds or not.

Maybe it'll hit you when you're on your way to Bristol City for the first game of the campaign next season.

Least it will be cheap :)

Offline villadelph

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #158 on: February 12, 2012, 07:31:05 PM »
No.

Ask me in 4 games time and it may be a different answer.

What happens when there's not four games to judge him by and we're driving to fizzy pop clubs on the weekend?

There will be more than 4 games left after those 4, so that is an incredibly pointless comment.

That's not what he's saying, though, is it?

But it's what i'm saying.

If neither of you can understand, ask me in 4 matches my answer may different, then there isn't a fat lot I can do about it as it's not the most complex sentence ever written.

I took it as him making a general point about time running out rather than having a pop at your timeframes, but hey ho, maybe I can't decipher a simple sentence.

Which would be valid if i'd said "he's got until the end of the season". As that may indeed be too late. After the next 4 games, there are still 9 left which would be enough for a new manager to make an impact should it be necessary.

Keep giving him slack.. keep giving him opportunity to succeed because its not going to happen. The supporters don't want it to happen, he doesn't know how to make it happen and the board doesn't care if he succeeds or not.

Maybe it'll hit you when you're on your way to Bristol City for the first game of the campaign next season.

Least it will be cheap :)

maybe we'll even try to score a goal!

Offline JUAN PABLO

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #159 on: February 12, 2012, 07:31:57 PM »
I'm actually wondering if McLeish relegating us would be a good thing.

First off McLeish would surely fuck off from football. Secondly, Randy will lose ALOT of money and he'll deserve it for being so stupid. Thirdly, we can fuck off all the high earners like Dunne, Collins etc. and use more of our kids.

Maybe we need a rebirth like Newcastle? I just fear the kids won't be good enough to bring us straight back up.

I'm just fucking sick of what's going on at this club right now and think we need a major revamp where we need an ethos to play more like Swansea.

Relegation a good thing for Villa?  No.  It's not acceptable under any circumstances.

If Villa got relegated , AMC would still be here

Offline Aston Manor

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #160 on: February 12, 2012, 07:32:46 PM »
Difficult. He shouldn't be in charge but is. The team is a mess and tactically we do seem poor. especially at  home. I fear for us now that Keane has gone and those lack of points from our early games has come back to potentially bite us on our arse. As for sacking him now that is just a 50/50 decision so we may as well leave it until the summer. I'm not convinced that whoever is available can come in and change us sufficiently to make that much of a difference.

Offline andyh

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #161 on: February 12, 2012, 07:32:54 PM »
I'm actually wondering if McLeish relegating us would be a good thing.

First off McLeish would surely fuck off from football. Secondly, Randy will lose ALOT of money and he'll deserve it for being so stupid. Thirdly, we can fuck off all the high earners like Dunne, Collins etc. and use more of our kids.

Maybe we need a rebirth like Newcastle? I just fear the kids won't be good enough to bring us straight back up.

I'm just fucking sick of what's going on at this club right now and think we need a major revamp where we need an ethos to play more like Swansea.
Don't EVER wish that on our club

Offline Villanation

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #162 on: February 12, 2012, 07:34:56 PM »
I think Lerner has to step in and make a grown up decision, he has to admit to both himself the club and the fans he's got this wrong, it no good him persevering with this and hoping against hope that if we get through to the end of the season, then what, is he seriously going to give McLiesh 30ML to throw at players, and expect him to attract the kind of players we need to have, not forgetting the likelihood of players leaving the club (assuming we stay up).

This is a nowhere road we are on, Lerner has to say, I've got it wrong, sorry about that, drag McLiesh into his office and tell him there will be a mutual parting of the waves either now or the end of the season, and start planning now for next season.

Offline Summers

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #163 on: February 12, 2012, 07:35:11 PM »
I just closed my eyes and imagined McLeish carries on til the end of the season and we go down.

I feel sick.

Offline Irish villain

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #164 on: February 12, 2012, 07:35:35 PM »
No matter how much anyone hates AM or Randy, wanting us relegated is insanity. It could take us years to bounce back just to where we are right now.

I don't think we'd cope with relegation the way Newcastle did. You know villa. It would end up worse than we'd even expect so lets not go flippantly putting a positive spin on things like that.

 


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