AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[TheSandman]

We probably can't afford to pay off his contract.

Randy has to take a lot of blame for giving a poor manager such a lucrative deal.

Randy is pretty much entirely to blame. He should never have appointed him n the first place.

And what's to say that he won't make a horse's arse out of a third appointment?

[Dante Lavelli]

*Sigh*  It is getting so hard to find positives to cling onto.

If we sacked him then we'd have to pay a fair whack of compensation, but so be it, I cannot see things getting any better.  I'd be happy with KMac and Sid for the rest of the season and then try and get Lambert, Poyet or Rodgers in the summer. 

I've said it before but I'd love to see Southgate as a sort strategic director.  He's spent the last few years studying youth development for the FA.  And if that is our future strategy then he'd be an ideal guy to sit above the manager/coach plus advising Randy on football related issues.

[villadelph]

I wouldn't mind seeing Mac and Sid take temporary charge if it came down to it. Sid especially has a good trio of virtues to temporary stewardship: firstly, he's trained these young players who, like it or not, we have to rely on to some extent, so he knows them inside and out; secondly, his youth teams have played good and effective football with these self-same players, which would obviously be an improvement; and thirdly, he's a proper Villa man who knows the club and what sort of expectations are reasonable.

My preference is still an end of season transition, but if it came down to that, I could see advantages to it.

I think Mac and Sid are part of the problem. Neither are strong enough characters to win the changing room war. It will take a very strong personality to come in right now and change things.

I disagree, respectfully of course. Its not about personal issues anymore, its about results and the players are well aware of that. If a manager, any manager, can come in and put the proper players in their proper positions the results would start to come our way.

Anyone, literally anyone, would be embraced by the villa faithful. When McLeish goes there was be a huge lift off our shoulders and a celebration throughout the area.

If you would've told me last year that Emile Heskey would still be starting for Villa I'd would've offed myself. But not only did he start, it was on the wing.. against the Man City. ARE YOU KIDDING?!

[barrysleftfoot]

   
  I agree with Yorkie.Passionless, defeatist, negative, boring, sad.

  I was prepared to give him at least a year, but when i saw the team, and the ambition of the team i changed my mind.

 THAT is not acceptable for AVFC, to lie down and accept inferiority , without having a go.He did the same last week, the better team he went defensive.I hate my club giving money away but McL either has to change or go.

[taylorsworkrate]

We probably can't afford to pay off his contract.

Randy has to take a lot of blame for giving a poor manager such a lucrative deal.

Randy is pretty much entirely to blame. He should never have appointed him n the first place.

Well no obviously.

However, having done so, Randy should have at least left us in a positions where we could have cut our losses when it went tits up.

[pauliewalnuts]

We probably can't afford to pay off his contract.

Randy has to take a lot of blame for giving a poor manager such a lucrative deal.

Randy is pretty much entirely to blame. He should never have appointed him n the first place.

And what's to say that he won't make a horse's arse out of a third appointment?

Good point, but this one is looking pretty easy to improve on.

[rutski]

But how is keeping McLeish as manager good for the club? The morale is at an all time low.

If he's here next season watch the attendence plummet. How can that be good for future of AVFC?

I just don't think we should sack him right now. I think that we should wait until the summer and if things carry on like they are, then do the deed.

Tell me, who's going to replace him if we sack him tonight?

Mac and Sid would do much better. If we went for Lambert, we'd get him.

Half the managers in the Championship would do better.

I think maybe if we inquired about Lambert in the summer we might have a chance, but for me there's no way in hell he's leaving Norwich right now - he's loved by the fans and the owner, after getting them promoted comfortably to the top flight of English Football; and they currently sit in eighth, behind Liverpool. Why on Earth would he want to come to the Villa?

that answer is easy! they willnever ever do any better than this!

[Stu]

I've gone with yes, but maybe not before the end of the season, depends how bad things get. But the simple reason is that I just don't think he was good enough in the first place and he's proved it. Sadly I think it's that simple.

This for me.

[Chipsticks]

But how is keeping McLeish as manager good for the club? The morale is at an all time low.

If he's here next season watch the attendence plummet. How can that be good for future of AVFC?

I just don't think we should sack him right now. I think that we should wait until the summer and if things carry on like they are, then do the deed.

Tell me, who's going to replace him if we sack him tonight?

Mac and Sid would do much better. If we went for Lambert, we'd get him.

Half the managers in the Championship would do better.

I think maybe if we inquired about Lambert in the summer we might have a chance, but for me there's no way in hell he's leaving Norwich right now - he's loved by the fans and the owner, after getting them promoted comfortably to the top flight of English Football; and they currently sit in eighth, behind Liverpool. Why on Earth would he want to come to the Villa?

that answer is easy! they willnever ever do any better than this!

While that fact will likely remain true, I don't buy that logic of Lambert's mindset.

[andyh]

Sack him now.
He is not learning from his mistakes.
Yet again we approach a game like a bunch of scared schoolboys, we had no intention of trying to win it or take the game to the opposition.
We finally decided to take part after going behind and with 15 mins to go.
It is not good enough.
He is not good enough.
Get rid.

[AvFc4eVeR]

I wonder how much influence Doug still holds within the club in terms of his relationship with Randy, if any. I dont believe Doug would have put up with this nonsense as long as this.

[rutski]

I wonder how much influence Doug still holds within the club in terms of his relationship with Randy, if any. I dont believe Doug would have put up with this nonsense as long as this.

nobody to start with longings for doug ellis please!!!

[AvFc4eVeR]

*Sigh*  It is getting so hard to find positives to cling onto.

If we sacked him then we'd have to pay a fair whack of compensation, but so be it, I cannot see things getting any better.  I'd be happy with KMac and Sid for the rest of the season and then try and get Lambert, Poyet or Rodgers in the summer. 

I've said it before but I'd love to see Southgate as a sort strategic director.  He's spent the last few years studying youth development for the FA.  And if that is our future strategy then he'd be an ideal guy to sit above the manager/coach plus advising Randy on football related issues.

What ever the compensation, I can almost guarantee it will be less than the money lost if we were relegated.

[Dante Lavelli]

I wonder how much influence Doug still holds within the club in terms of his relationship with Randy, if any. I dont believe Doug would have put up with this nonsense as long as this.

I certainly think he'd be pissed off with the manager's belief that playing for a draw at home is acceptable.
Whereas I'm not sure Randy will be aware that it is happening. 

[hulkamania]

91st minute and Dunne goes off injured. Replaced by Baker! Why not Bannan!!!? We needed a goal ffs