Protest? Not in my name...the football match is the main event

[Vanilla]

In regards to the current manager, 1. The club 'targeted him' when they still had time to look at other candidates, and 2. His PL pedigree is one of struggle and relegation.
 
Also, the manager has also fallen out with several players (the biggest criticism of Houllier), including ones he signed only this season.

What evidence have you got of that?
McLeish may have bollocked a few players. That is part of a manager's job.
O'Neill signed them, fell out with them and didn't play them. That is a waste of club assets.
What is your hidden meaning about McLeish falling out with players all about?

What evidence? Well N'zogbia has resorted to expressing his utter frustration on Twitter, and the manager has resorted to criticising him and Ireland in the press. Don't really see that being all hands rowing together on a happy ship, but I may be wrong.

So that's two. Where are the several that you mentioned?

Well Bent criticised the style of play openly in September, and went on his shopping trip in December during a game. Doesn't smack of having absolute respect for the manager.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

In regards to the current manager, 1. The club 'targeted him' when they still had time to look at other candidates, and 2. His PL pedigree is one of struggle and relegation.
 
Also, the manager has also fallen out with several players (the biggest criticism of Houllier), including ones he signed only this season.

What evidence have you got of that?
McLeish may have bollocked a few players. That is part of a manager's job.
O'Neill signed them, fell out with them and didn't play them. That is a waste of club assets.
What is your hidden meaning about McLeish falling out with players all about?

What evidence? Well N'zogbia has resorted to expressing his utter frustration on Twitter, and the manager has resorted to criticising him and Ireland in the press. Don't really see that being all hands rowing together on a happy ship, but I may be wrong.

Rubbish. Houllier and MON both fell out with players and blanked them out the team altogether. John Gregory seemed to glory in public fall outs with members of his playing staff. One of McLeish's greatest strengths is keeping players in the loop and involved, while still maintaining his authority.
All the very best for todays game Boss !

I do hope after today's performance, you are reappraising that statement.

Not at all. Why should I ? Change my mind and join the `Sack  Mcleish` mob because we lost a football match to a team assembled for about £400 million ?

I'm backing him to improve us because I actually think he is a good football manager who is able to command respect of the players. Yes I want us to do better than we are but the reasons we are not isn't because of `bloody Mcleish` or `bloody Hutton` or `bloody Heskey` etc.  It is because we are still slowly having to recover from a manager who overspent the budget then knocked the club sideways by jumping ship.

[TonyD]

In regards to the current manager, 1. The club 'targeted him' when they still had time to look at other candidates, and 2. His PL pedigree is one of struggle and relegation.
 
Also, the manager has also fallen out with several players (the biggest criticism of Houllier), including ones he signed only this season.

What evidence have you got of that?
McLeish may have bollocked a few players. That is part of a manager's job.
O'Neill signed them, fell out with them and didn't play them. That is a waste of club assets.
What is your hidden meaning about McLeish falling out with players all about?

What evidence? Well N'zogbia has resorted to expressing his utter frustration on Twitter, and the manager has resorted to criticising him and Ireland in the press. Don't really see that being all hands rowing together on a happy ship, but I may be wrong.

Rubbish. Houllier and MON both fell out with players and blanked them out the team altogether. John Gregory seemed to glory in public fall outs with members of his playing staff. One of McLeish's greatest strengths is keeping players in the loop and involved, while still maintaining his authority.
All the very best for todays game Boss !

I do hope after today's performance, you are reappraising that statement.

Not at all. Why should I ? Change my mind and join the `Sack  Mcleish` mob because we lost a football match to a team assembled for about £400 million ?

I'm backing him to improve us because I actually think he is a good football manager who is able to command respect of the players. Yes I want us to do better than we are but the reasons we are not isn't because of `bloody Mcleish` or `bloody Hutton` or `bloody Heskey` etc.  It is because we are still slowly having to recover from a manager who overspent the budget then knocked the club sideways by jumping ship.

"good football manager"  now that has made me laugh out loud.

[Des Little]

From what I saw of it, that protest simply achieved one thing - being more toe-curling and embarrassing than the one in the summer.  And to think the national press actually gave it coverage too. 

[myf]

The problem is people still think it's about it coming from sha and that has nothing to do with my problem with him i could not care less where he came from. His tactics are baffling his team selections are puzling. He has lost the dressing room never had the fans and the blues fans at work actually feel sorry for me at work having to watch the football that they know we play as they had to sit through it for 3years.

Where he came from is the smokescreen. It a way for his supporters to avoid talking about 6 wins in 25 games.

MON only had 6 wins in his first 25 games in his fist season.  There weren't any protests then or threads about relegation.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

DOZENS of Aston Villa fans took part in a demonstration against manager Alex McLeish in a protest which split supporters.
 
Up to 70 disgruntled supporters gathered ahead of the Villa Park clash with title-chasing Manchester City with banners and signs, chanting: “We don’t want McLeish,” and “Get out of our club”.
 
Fans opposed to the protest called for Villa followers to unite behind the team before the event took place.
 
But Martin Edgerton, aged 38, who was at the protest with his daughter, insisted former Birmingham City boss McLeish had to go.
 
“The club is not listening to its fans and they are the lifeblood of the club,” he said.
 
“The atmosphere around the club is flat. There is no atmosphere. We are not together, people are divided.
 
“I’ll walk away next season if McLeish is still here.”
 
And Mark Carlin, aged 35, added: “I just don’t like him. He’s no good for me.”
 
But other Villa supporters were unimpressed by the protest.
 
Brian Millward, aged 75, from Stourbridge, said: “The majority of supporters don’t want McLeish but most of us are going to give him a chance.”
 
And Robin Peck called the protest a “waste of time”.

The 64-year-old, from York, said: “They should have been here in the 1960s when we were really bad.
 
“Give the bloke a chance. To try to get rid of him now is stupid.”

http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/2012/02/12/aston-villa-fans-split-over-alex-mcleish-protests-97319-30316735/

[Ian.]

Up to 70!

[villajk]

'The club is not listening to its fans'?  So that's up to 70 who are speaking for the fans?

[TheSandman]

I love the fact that the first word of the article is DOZENS capitalised. So dramatic.

[garyfouroaks]

I am not a Mcleish fan, and did not want him.

But his appointment was about where Randy and the club and its finances  are at the moment. Would Martinez have done better?

This is definitely not protest time.

[UK Redsox]

I was mightily impressed with the protest and their A4 sheets of paper with McLeish Out on them. It's still not about about where he came from, despite the fuck off back to small heath chants.

one of the blokes had an A3 sheet, so I guess that he was the guy in charge

[Chris Harte]

Today was a bit warmer than of late. Imagine if it had been as cold as it was a few days ago. They'd probably have had even less turn up.

[preston28]

The problem is people still think it's about it coming from sha and that has nothing to do with my problem with him i could not care less where he came from. His tactics are baffling his team selections are puzling. He has lost the dressing room never had the fans and the blues fans at work actually feel sorry for me at work having to watch the football that they know we play as they had to sit through it for 3years.

Where he came from is the smokescreen. It a way for his supporters to avoid talking about 6 wins in 25 games.

MON only had 6 wins in his first 25 games in his fist season.  There weren't any protests then or threads about relegation.

True but different circumstances. We had emerged from the O'Dreary days & we were filled with optimism that things would hopefully get better under RL and MON so there was no panic. We hoped that we would be on the up.
Roll on  and the optimism is replaced with dispair and realism that things are not going to get better and hence we are now worried that we will get relegated.

[UK Redsox]

Up to 70!

I'd say half that many were protesting. There were far more just milling around watching the event or, in the case of me, Leeg and Mr Shin, trying not to get run over by a police van.

[villajk]

Up to 70!

I'd say half that many were protesting. There were far more just milling around watching the event or, in the case of me, Leeg and Mr Shin, trying not to get run over by a police van.

What is it with this police van run over?  Was it deliberate or what?