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Re: Protest? Not in my name...the football match is the main event
« Reply #285 on: February 12, 2012, 11:22:59 AM »
I think the stick he got over the Moscow team selection was understandbly justified, but there was a logic to it, unlike the disgraceful team Houiller put out in the FA Cup.
My frustration with the Moscow debacle - without wishing to rake over the coals again - was the fact that if he'd put out stronger teams in the earlier group games we wouldn't have been playing such strong oppo. I never could understand the logic of that.

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Re: Protest? Not in my name...the football match is the main event
« Reply #286 on: February 12, 2012, 11:45:24 AM »
It clearly wasn't a priority while we were chasing 4th place. I thought all that was put to bed.

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Re: Protest? Not in my name...the football match is the main event tomorrow
« Reply #287 on: February 12, 2012, 12:04:41 PM »
Protests wont help or solve anything!! Those going should be shot in front of there familys as Jeremy would say!! (meant in jest of course)

Stan Collymore put on Twitter how big an impact the fans can have on players. Get behind the team! to anyone protesting... take a look at our away form.
I agree with your first paragraph.
Regarding Collymore, he shit on the club and runs with the hare and the hounds. Ignore him.


I agree but its still coming from an ex pro.

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Re: Protest? Not in my name...the football match is the main event tomorrow
« Reply #288 on: February 12, 2012, 12:13:54 PM »
We seem to have spent the past 18 months saying we're in a relegation battle without ever having been in one.

Difference is last season we spent 30 million quid and the club was filled with positivity, this year we've gone into February with low confidence a manager most don't want and a team that is a shambles. Yes shambles is where we will be when Keane how back.

We are 7 points off relegation unless we get something tomorrow and I have no confidence in our manager to keep us up, our only hope is that the players step up to the plate, because they are good enough.

Just because you may not want him it doesn't mean the majority dont. unless off course you have 40,000 friends. I for 1 am behind Mcleish. theres been some very frustrating games this year but theres also been some positives.

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Re: Protest? Not in my name...the football match is the main event
« Reply #289 on: February 12, 2012, 12:49:15 PM »
Just in case anyone does want to protest but can't make it, don't panic, I'm guessing there will be one at the next home game too. Not that the people doing this are in danger of looking silly and embarrassing the rest of us of course.

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Re: Protest? Not in my name...the football match is the main event tomorrow
« Reply #290 on: February 12, 2012, 01:15:39 PM »

In regards to the current manager, 1. The club 'targeted him' when they still had time to look at other candidates, and 2. His PL pedigree is one of struggle and relegation.
 
Also, the manager has also fallen out with several players (the biggest criticism of Houllier), including ones he signed only this season.
What evidence have you got of that?
McLeish may have bollocked a few players. That is part of a manager's job.
O'Neill signed them, fell out with them and didn't play them. That is a waste of club assets.
What is your hidden meaning about McLeish falling out with players all about?

What evidence? Well N'zogbia has resorted to expressing his utter frustration on Twitter, and the manager has resorted to criticising him and Ireland in the press. Don't really see that being all hands rowing together on a happy ship, but I may be wrong.

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Re: Protest? Not in my name...the football match is the main event
« Reply #291 on: February 12, 2012, 01:26:43 PM »
I most certainly did not want McLeish as manager. I was appalled at the announcement as I did not think him a good enough manager for us.   Looking back now I ask myself who I would rather have in charge - McLeish or Houllier. The honest answer would be McLeish as I felt that Houllier was out of his depth. 

I am a Villa fan, have been for 40 years and I will continue to support the team and the manager. I think this protest is an embarrasment and the people taking part mindless sheep  who have bought into the Sky/Premier League instant gratification bollocks.  I intend to mock this protest and the idiots taking part mercilessly.

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Re: Protest? Not in my name...the football match is the main event
« Reply #292 on: February 12, 2012, 01:33:38 PM »
On the Houllier and MON putting weaker sides out debate.

Surely Houllier achieved his objective, to keep players fit and stay up?!

MON lost all momentum and we dropped like a stone.

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Re: Protest? Not in my name...the football match is the main event
« Reply #293 on: February 12, 2012, 01:36:32 PM »
I most certainly did not want McLeish as manager. I was appalled at the announcement as I did not think him a good enough manager for us.   Looking back now I ask myself who I would rather have in charge - McLeish or Houllier. The honest answer would be McLeish as I felt that Houllier was out of his depth. 

I am a Villa fan, have been for 40 years and I will continue to support the team and the manager. I think this protest is an embarrasment and the people taking part mindless sheep  who have bought into the Sky/Premier League instant gratification bollocks.  I intend to mock this protest and the idiots taking part mercilessly.

Houllier out of his depth? I'm sorry it's Mcleish out of his depth.

If Houllier was healthy he would have shipped out the shit and built a stronger younger team for not a lot of money. ie the likes of Cabeye, Ba were all on the agenda and the shit like Warnock, Collins, Dunne, Hutton would not be here and we would probably still have NRC(who we have really missed)

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Re: Protest? Not in my name...the football match is the main event
« Reply #294 on: February 12, 2012, 02:00:16 PM »
If a few misguided idiots want to peacefully protest they can - freedom of speech and all that eh ?
But if I see any of them having their little parade around outside today,  it is my right to yell at the top of my voice "ALEX McLEISH'S CLARET AND BLUE ARMY !"
In fact if I ever hear that song break out amongst fans at a game, I will make a point of joining in. 

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Re: Protest? Not in my name...the football match is the main event
« Reply #295 on: February 12, 2012, 02:00:30 PM »

In regards to the current manager, 1. The club 'targeted him' when they still had time to look at other candidates, and 2. His PL pedigree is one of struggle and relegation.
 
Also, the manager has also fallen out with several players (the biggest criticism of Houllier), including ones he signed only this season.
What evidence have you got of that?
McLeish may have bollocked a few players. That is part of a manager's job.
O'Neill signed them, fell out with them and didn't play them. That is a waste of club assets.
What is your hidden meaning about McLeish falling out with players all about?

What evidence? Well N'zogbia has resorted to expressing his utter frustration on Twitter, and the manager has resorted to criticising him and Ireland in the press. Don't really see that being all hands rowing together on a happy ship, but I may be wrong.

So that's two. Where are the several that you mentioned?

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Re: Protest? Not in my name...the football match is the main event
« Reply #296 on: February 12, 2012, 02:06:47 PM »
I most certainly did not want McLeish as manager. I was appalled at the announcement as I did not think him a good enough manager for us.   Looking back now I ask myself who I would rather have in charge - McLeish or Houllier. The honest answer would be McLeish as I felt that Houllier was out of his depth. 

I am a Villa fan, have been for 40 years and I will continue to support the team and the manager. I think this protest is an embarrasment and the people taking part mindless sheep  who have bought into the Sky/Premier League instant gratification bollocks.  I intend to mock this protest and the idiots taking part mercilessly.

Houllier out of his depth? I'm sorry it's Mcleish out of his depth.

If Houllier was healthy he would have shipped out the shit and built a stronger younger team for not a lot of money. ie the likes of Cabeye, Ba were all on the agenda and the shit like Warnock, Collins, Dunne, Hutton would not be here and we would probably still have NRC(who we have really missed)

As great as it sounds, you and I both know that Lerner wouldn't have been willing to fund the money Houllier would have wanted. That is why we ended up with Alex and not someone who might be perceived as a better manager because McLeish is willing to work with most of what he has got and not a lot of money.

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Re: Protest? Not in my name...the football match is the main event
« Reply #297 on: February 12, 2012, 02:07:14 PM »
Hasnt he singled out Albrighton previously as well?

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Re: Protest? Not in my name...the football match is the main event
« Reply #298 on: February 12, 2012, 02:09:46 PM »
I most certainly did not want McLeish as manager. I was appalled at the announcement as I did not think him a good enough manager for us.   Looking back now I ask myself who I would rather have in charge - McLeish or Houllier. The honest answer would be McLeish as I felt that Houllier was out of his depth. 

I am a Villa fan, have been for 40 years and I will continue to support the team and the manager. I think this protest is an embarrasment and the people taking part mindless sheep  who have bought into the Sky/Premier League instant gratification bollocks.  I intend to mock this protest and the idiots taking part mercilessly.

Houllier out of his depth? I'm sorry it's Mcleish out of his depth.

If Houllier was healthy he would have shipped out the shit and built a stronger younger team for not a lot of money. ie the likes of Cabeye, Ba were all on the agenda and the shit like Warnock, Collins, Dunne, Hutton would not be here and we would probably still have NRC(who we have really missed)

As great as it sounds, you and I both know that Lerner wouldn't have been willing to fund the money Houllier would have wanted. That is why we ended up with Alex and not someone who might be perceived as a better manager because McLeish is willing to work with most of what he has got and not a lot of money.

N'Zogbia and Hutton £14million or Cabeye and Ba £7million that leaves us with 7 million plus whatever we got for the players he would have hopefully got rid of, I know who I'd rather be spending what little money we have.

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Re: Protest? Not in my name...the football match is the main event
« Reply #299 on: February 12, 2012, 02:26:02 PM »

In regards to the current manager, 1. The club 'targeted him' when they still had time to look at other candidates, and 2. His PL pedigree is one of struggle and relegation.
 
Also, the manager has also fallen out with several players (the biggest criticism of Houllier), including ones he signed only this season.
What evidence have you got of that?
McLeish may have bollocked a few players. That is part of a manager's job.
O'Neill signed them, fell out with them and didn't play them. That is a waste of club assets.
What is your hidden meaning about McLeish falling out with players all about?

What evidence? Well N'zogbia has resorted to expressing his utter frustration on Twitter, and the manager has resorted to criticising him and Ireland in the press. Don't really see that being all hands rowing together on a happy ship, but I may be wrong.

Rubbish. Houllier and MON both fell out with players and blanked them out the team altogether. John Gregory seemed to glory in public fall outs with members of his playing staff. One of McLeish's greatest strengths is keeping players in the loop and involved, while still maintaining his authority.
All the very best for todays game Boss !

 


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