Newcastle United v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[RonBurgundy]

The spell after HT where we could not keep the ball for more than 2 seconds cost us the game. We went on the back foot and resorted to long ball of which Bannan was one of the biggest culpits despite being a 'passer'. Despite Cuellar playing the last few games we're still keeping up our average of conceding at least 2 goals per game proving he is not the answer. Thought we created enough today, esp first half, to be getting something from the game but that spell of rubbishness cost us the game.

Agree with this - i'm a fan of wee Barry but he was guilty of some heavy duty long range punting. In the first half we strung nice little 1-2's together and kept the ball well and moving at pace. 2nd half, diminished impact from Keane and we resorted to the Villa of the first half of this season. Doesn't bode well for when Keane departs.

[Newquay_AVFC]

Gardner looked good when on, Heskey like always tried but with no result. Fair play to Warnock, thought he well. Unluycky not to get a point today.

[Goldie.7]

For me it's simple - drop Warnock, put Clark at LB (he's a centre half I know but definitely no midfielder), give Gardner a start in the middle and keep Bannan in as well.  Let's try and start games on the fcuking front foot for a change.

Why not Clarke at centre half with Cuellar? Dunne was lazy, slow and needs to be left out.

Really! Dunne put in the best pass of the game.

[WarszaVillan]

For the first twenty of the second half we hardly had any possession at all. The substitution was made in order for Heskey to help get hold of the ball and get the team passing again. This actually worked, but then they got their second. Gardner looks good and it'd be good to see him get a run of games now.

[TimTheVillain]

2 dreadful substitutions.

Ireland and N'Zog were playing well against a strong barcodes team.

Bringing Bannan and Heskey on, were just poor Management decisions.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

''Stephen Ireland apparently told the manager to 'f**k off' which resulted in him getting taken off at half time and Barry Bannan coming on. It is positive, if true, because players are now telling the manager what we all think and again, if true, it is a horrid signal to everyone associated with the club''

Could be bollocks who knows?

I hope AM headbutted him. Who the fuck does Ireland think he is? A month or so of eventually playing some good football and he's now decided he can tell people what he wants? I don't think so you bald headed ******. Now fuck off and don't come back if that's your attitude. I'd rather Gardner play instead. You are the reason why so many people hate modern-day footballers. Those who think we should all bow down to their feet because they have more money than us? fuck off back to City...oh, wait, you're too shit for them.

[James]

Quite enjoyed the game, seemed very open at times and their goalkeeper played well. We lost, but not worrying about relegation as I did for nearly all of last season. AM still a vast improvement on Houllier. Their new 10 million man scored, McLeish is doing well having had his 10 million men sold. Wish Keane could stay with us for a bit longer!

N'Zog is AMcL's 10 million man and he subbed him!

[villadelph]

2 dreadful substitutions.

Ireland and N'Zog were playing well against a strong barcodes team.

Bringing Bannan and Heskey on, were just poor Management decisions.

Agreed.

But, I want to know what happened with Ireland. Obviously he doesn't like playing on the wing very much, and we're really missing out on his full potential by putting him there.

[fredm]

For me it's simple - drop Warnock, put Clark at LB (he's a centre half I know but definitely no midfielder), give Gardner a start in the middle and keep Bannan in as well.  Let's try and start games on the fcuking front foot for a change.

And what happened in the first half at Wolves with Clark at LB?  He got torn to shreds.  He is not a full back!
The trouble today at the start of the second half was that we were not moving and wanting the ball enough (how often do we say that?) and consequently giving it away all the time.  Whether this was because Clark and Petrov were knackered I couldn't tell on the TV but if it was then AMc should have seen it and rectified it.  If it was because they were just being outnumbered then again he should have rectified it.

On another note, just how bad is Darren Bent's ball holding?  I think the first 4 times he received the ball in the match it was nicked off him by a defender. No player should allow that to happen.

[TimTheVillain]

''Stephen Ireland apparently told the manager to 'f**k off' which resulted in him getting taken off at half time and Barry Bannan coming on. It is positive, if true, because players are now telling the manager what we all think and again, if true, it is a horrid signal to everyone associated with the club''

Could be bollocks who knows?

I hope AM headbutted him. Who the fuck does Ireland think he is? A month or so of eventually playing some good football and he's now decided he can tell people what he wants? I don't think so you bald headed c***. Now fuck off and don't come back if that's your attitude. I'd rather Gardner play instead. You are the reason why so many people hate modern-day footballers. Those who think we should all bow down to their feet because they have more money than us? fuck off back to City...oh, wait, you're too shit for them.

I saw that Tweeted, but where it came from who knows ?

[garyshawsknee]

For me it's simple - drop Warnock, put Clark at LB (he's a centre half I know but definitely no midfielder), give Gardner a start in the middle and keep Bannan in as well.  Let's try and start games on the fcuking front foot for a change.

Why not Clarke at centre half with Cuellar? Dunne was lazy, slow and needs to be left out.

Hasn't Lichaj played at left back for the States before. Might be worth a punt.

[villadelph]

unreliable twitter source.. "McLeish furious with Ireland for not cutting out a cross. Told him so then Ireland shouted back F-off to his manager. #avfc"

[dave.woodhall]

unreliable twitter source.. "McLeish furious with Ireland for not cutting out a cross. Told him so then Ireland shouted back F-off to his manager. #avfc"

But doesn't say that was why he was taken off. Things like that happen all the time.

[DB]

For me it's simple - drop Warnock, put Clark at LB (he's a centre half I know but definitely no midfielder), give Gardner a start in the middle and keep Bannan in as well.  Let's try and start games on the fcuking front foot for a change.

Why not Clarke at centre half with Cuellar? Dunne was lazy, slow and needs to be left out.

Hasn't Lichaj played at left back for the States before. Might be worth a punt.

Clarke isn't there yet, he was far too slow - he did nothing of note either.

[ChrissyPrice]

Defence was rubbish as usual (a great strike for the winner but Donkey Dunne looked as manouverable as an oil tanker trying to cut it out)but to be fair they don't get much cover from the midfield. We really do need a good holding midfielder but I have no idea who that is in the squad.

I seem to be one of the few who thought we looked a bit better second half when Heskey came on.