Newcastle United v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Somniloquism]

Don't you also think a problem is we were shored like a house in the hurricane earlier in the season. This meant meant we didn't concede many, but couldn't score. Now we have opened up to try and have an attacking threat, but the defence, which had had virtually the whole team defending with them before, has now been found wanting.

The defense was hardly watertight early in the season.

All you need to do is look at all the ridiculous goals conceded from set pieces.

Also, it isn't like we are being overrun with attackers in most games recently, it is just stupid stuff like conceding needless pens, scoring own goals or not clearing crosses effectively. Some of the issues are unlucky, ( the ball falling to Cisse against QPR, or to Demba Ba yesterday, or kicked against Walcott on a clearance), but most of those could have been cut out earlier in the move which would have stopped the goal. (Warnock not giving the ball away, Dunne heading out effectively, Warnock stopping Walcott on the wing in those cases)

[Mazrim]

Correct.

[Merv]

Shouldnt have lost. simple.

Far, far from simple. It was a close game decided by a cracking goal and their keeper making a number of good saves. Another day it would have gone our way, that's the nature of sport.

For most of the games this season apart from about 6, you could argue "another day it would have gone our way". We are running out of games for it to "go our way this season" and the reason for that is typically defensive gifts to the opposition.

Absolutely. Of course, you can explain every defeat fairly easily. I keep reading that we're supposedly improving, but we're still losing far too often and certainly not winning enough; we've beaten the bottom four sides this season, plus Norwich and Chelsea. Not great.

Yes, Cisse scored a cracker yesterday to decide the game. But we came out for the second half and looked like conceding almost immediately. How did we go from the boost of scoring seconds before the break to coming out for the second half on the back foot?

[ktvillan]

Agreed you can't put it all down to luck, there are far too many "unforced errors" that seem to be down to a combination of poor concentration, lack of composure and in some cases, insufficient ability. 

[Chris Smith]

Shouldnt have lost. simple.

Far, far from simple. It was a close game decided by a cracking goal and their keeper making a number of good saves. Another day it would have gone our way, that's the nature of sport.

For most of the games this season apart from about 6, you could argue "another day it would have gone our way". We are running out of games for it to "go our way this season" and the reason for that is typically defensive gifts to the opposition.

Absolutely. Of course, you can explain every defeat fairly easily. I keep reading that we're supposedly improving, but we're still losing far too often and certainly not winning enough; we've beaten the bottom four sides this season, plus Norwich and Chelsea. Not great.

Yes, Cisse scored a cracker yesterday to decide the game. But we came out for the second half and looked like conceding almost immediately. How did we go from the boost of scoring seconds before the break to coming out for the second half on the back foot?

They upped their game, you see it all the time in football after a half time break - we did the same at Wolves. They're the home side going well in the league, to not expect periods when we are going to be pushed back is a touch optimistic. I'm disappointed with the outcome but realistic enough to realise that on another day it could easily have gone our way.

[taylorsworkrate]

Shouldnt have lost. simple.

Far, far from simple. It was a close game decided by a cracking goal and their keeper making a number of good saves. Another day it would have gone our way, that's the nature of sport.

For most of the games this season apart from about 6, you could argue "another day it would have gone our way". We are running out of games for it to "go our way this season" and the reason for that is typically defensive gifts to the opposition.

Absolutely. Of course, you can explain every defeat fairly easily. I keep reading that we're supposedly improving, but we're still losing far too often and certainly not winning enough; we've beaten the bottom four sides this season, plus Norwich and Chelsea. Not great.

Yes, Cisse scored a cracker yesterday to decide the game. But we came out for the second half and looked like conceding almost immediately. How did we go from the boost of scoring seconds before the break to coming out for the second half on the back foot?

They upped their game, you see it all the time in football after a half time break - we did the same at Wolves. They're the home side going well in the league, to not expect periods when we are going to be pushed back is a touch optimistic. I'm disappointed with the outcome but realistic enough to realise that on another day it could easily have gone our way.

I think it was a case of Newcastle slightly upping their performance and us noticeably dropping ours.

Some consistency over 90mins is long overdue.