Newcastle United v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[themossman]

Apparently ''Stephen Ireland apparently told the manager to 'f**k off' which resulted in him getting taken off at half time and Barry Bannan coming on. It is positive, if true, because players are now telling the manager what we all think and again, if true, it is a horrid signal to everyone associated with the club''

Could be bollocks who knows?

Positive? Because another dressing room meltdown would make us less likely to get relegated?

[Rigadon]

Yes Olafs Beard, it was Huttons best game in a Villa shirt. 

[villadelph]

Apparently ''Stephen Ireland apparently told the manager to 'f**k off' which resulted in him getting taken off at half time and Barry Bannan coming on. It is positive, if true, because players are now telling the manager what we all think and again, if true, it is a horrid signal to everyone associated with the club''

Could be bollocks who knows?

Don't see this as positive at all after the Houllier debacle last campaign.

[RonBurgundy]

Time to start Gardner in the middle, give Clarke a rest. I should think Herd is 2/3 games away from being fully match fit.
Oh and find a way to extend Keane's stay - although he wore the expression of a bulldog licking piss off a nettle at times today so he may not fancy hanging around with this rabble.

[James]

Eck and hEckskey, fuck me! Both clueless. You just know that one will give the other a new contract don't you? Unbelievable.

As for Keane? If we somehow could magically sign him permanently does anyone really think he'd want to stay?

Awful all round. Citeh will slaughter us next weekend and then we have four games that I'm starting to dread!

<shakes head sadly, lost for further words>

[dave.woodhall]

Apparently ''Stephen Ireland apparently told the manager to 'f**k off' which resulted in him getting taken off at half time and Barry Bannan coming on. It is positive, if true, because players are now telling the manager what we all think and again, if true, it is a horrid signal to everyone associated with the club''

Could be bollocks who knows?

Oh look, someone on the internet gets"me" and "we" mixed up again. Anonymously, again.

[Des Little]

For me it's simple - drop Warnock, put Clark at LB (he's a centre half I know but definitely no midfielder), give Gardner a start in the middle and keep Bannan in as well.  Let's try and start games on the fcuking front foot for a change.

[Rigadon]

Eck and hEckskey, fuck me! Both clueless. You just know that one will give the other a new contract don't you? Unbelievable.

As for Keane? If we somehow could magically sign him permanently does anyone really think he'd want to stay?

Awful all round. Citeh will slaughter us next weekend and then we have four games that I'm starting to dread!

<shakes head sadly, lost for further words>

We played some excellent football and looked much the better side in the first half.   Our problem is that we always have a 20 minute spell where we're utter dross and always concede stupid, soft goals. 

[Nastylee]

The spell after HT where we could not keep the ball for more than 2 seconds cost us the game. We went on the back foot and resorted to long ball of which Bannan was one of the biggest culpits despite being a 'passer'. Despite Cuellar playing the last few games we're still keeping up our average of conceding at least 2 goals per game proving he is not the answer. Thought we created enough today, esp first half, to be getting something from the game but that spell of rubbishness cost us the game.

[villa for life]

Quite enjoyed the game, seemed very open at times and their goalkeeper played well. We lost, but not worrying about relegation as I did for nearly all of last season. AM still a vast improvement on Houllier. Their new 10 million man scored, McLeish is doing well having had his 10 million men sold. Wish Keane could stay with us for a bit longer!

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

I'm sure I've just seen Villa play some good football in that match and create some good chances, but you'd never know it from the reaction most people.

Why can't you point out the good bits as much as you do the bad bits???

Because the bad bits cost us the game. They outweigh the good and the result is all that matters.

Exactly. The results at the end of the season don't read: Newcastle 2 Aston Villa 1 (but Villa had some good bits).

So because there were a few more bad moments than good then you deem the good not worthy of mentioning? Almost as bizarre as Heskey coming on that is.

As for the second comment, presumably you didn't complain once under MON when we were consistently doing well and finishing around where Newcastle are now, because everything was perfect? We were doing so well under him that you did not point out anything that was preventing us from going that bit further?

[tarzansbrother]

For me it's simple - drop Warnock, put Clark at LB (he's a centre half I know but definitely no midfielder), give Gardner a start in the middle and keep Bannan in as well.  Let's try and start games on the fcuking front foot for a change.

Why not Clarke at centre half with Cuellar? Dunne was lazy, slow and needs to be left out.

[PaulWinch again]

This game is another example of playing well for a period of the game and not carrying it through. Our defence is absolutely killing us. Ireland and N'Zog and Gardner should have been on for the whole game. The reality is though we are starting to get dangerously close to the drop zone.

[villadelph]

Eck and hEckskey, fuck me! Both clueless. You just know that one will give the other a new contract don't you? Unbelievable.

As for Keane? If we somehow could magically sign him permanently does anyone really think he'd want to stay?

Awful all round. Citeh will slaughter us next weekend and then we have four games that I'm starting to dread!

<shakes head sadly, lost for further words>

We played some excellent football and looked much the better side in the first half.   Our problem is that we always have a 20 minute spell where we're utter dross and always concede stupid, soft goals.

and when the game finally opens up we don't convert our chances.. or find is more beneficial to pass to back to Petrov, who then passes it back to Hutton, who lays it off for Given to boot it to their defense.

This redundant non-sensible style is ridiculous. We have far to many house hold names in our squad to be comfortable with booting the ball down the pitch. Keep it on the god damn floor, and work off the ball. SIMPLE AS.

[Steve R]

And the prize for finding so many novel ways of giving the ball up goes to ...

We should have got something out of this game. We did enough to score more than one and should never have conceded two.

Bent is not a target man, stop trying to hit him from distance. Petrov faded out of the game, Clark was playing too far forward -  he should be  just in front of the back four.

Excellent game from Cuellar, Dunne and Warnock really should not be in the team. Fortunately, Hutton didn't have much to do.

Gardner's goal attempts may not have been convincing,  but he made excellent runs to create them in the first place. He really should be getting more than 10 minutes at the end, preferably the full 90.

It's a real pisser to lose when your goalkeeper has had so little to do other than put his foot through backpasses.

Onwards and Aerial.