Stephen Warnock - loaned to Bolton Wanderers (reply #231)

[Chipsticks]

The player performance thing in the match day program had him as our best performer last season, which I find really hard to comprehend.

He's always seemed like a decent guy to me, it's just a shame he's shit at football.

[The Left Side]

Great news, any idea how much of his wage we are still paying?

[gervilla]

We should have done a 2 for 1 deal with Blackpool.
If you want the Fonz,you have to take Hutton too.

[Matt C]

Is his contract with us up in the summer?

[Toronto Villa]

The best bit is that it is one more distraction gone and just one to go. Warnock and Hutton have no part to play ever again at our club so there is no point in them being around.

[Louzie0]

The thing is, that Warnock is a gifted and talented player who has come through a rigorous youth process at previous clubs, where those who do not make the grade are discarded.  I don't think many clubs hang on to their very young youth players if in the first instance, they can't make the grade technically or don't show real promise that they might.

But part of that assessment would be how well a player can take instructions for an individual match (or part of it) as well as just playing the position, as it were.  I'd expect that ability to be a major criterion for any professional football club with an 'academy', when deciding which young players they were going to keep, to work with year on year.  The really, really successful ones (2 or 3 each year) eventually work their way through to the first team.  That's why I don't buy into, 'he's crap'.  Wherever he came from, he 's emerged from that process.

There's something significantly askew when a regular first team player like Warnock who has played successfully for Villa in different defensive positions in premiership games is apparently so far adrift of what a progressive manager and coaching staff is asking him to do.  Others on here have mentioned how promising he was and how well he was playing, earlier in his Villa career.  If this loan is to achieve anything it's hopefully to enable the guy to regain confidence or what ever it is that has stalled him.  I wish him well.

(I haven't a clue about Alan Hutton, though! Fair do's)

[john e]

Good luck to him. The fact he's prepared to drop a division to play may stop all the "happy to sit on his arse and pick up his wages" crap that's spouted by some.

yeah, that was probably me to be honest.

but he still hasnt dropped divisions to play for less money has he ?   he will still be getting his contracted wage, thats fair enough i suppose but he wouldnt want to 'play football' for less, but he would rather play anywhere for the same

[paulcomben]

Coyle quoted saying that Bolton beat off competition from lots of other Champ clubs for him. Surely, then, there must also be interest in Hutton?

[N'Zimidy]

Coyle quoted saying that Bolton beat off competition from lots of other Champ clubs for him. Surely, then, there must also be interest in Hutton?

Probably for about £2k a week. We're probably waiting for someone desperate enough to give us £10k+ a week for his "services".  However unlikely that is to happen.

[PeterWithesShin]

Good luck to him. The fact he's prepared to drop a division to play may stop all the "happy to sit on his arse and pick up his wages" crap that's spouted by some.

yeah, that was probably me to be honest.

but he still hasnt dropped divisions to play for less money has he ?   he will still be getting his contracted wage, thats fair enough i suppose but he wouldnt want to 'play football' for less, but he would rather play anywhere for the same

Hard for him to move for less money if no one has made a bid for him though isn't it. You're accusing him of refusing to move for less money without any evidence he has done that.
All we do know is that rather than sit on his arse apart from a bit of training and pick up his wages he's chosen to move down a division to play for a few months.

[steamer]

I also wish him well, I have seen him have some poor games for us but he is not alone in that league.
But I have never seen him give up.
As for Hutton, I find it hard to dislike anyone, but in a Villa shirt he is always bad news about to happen.
Hope he finds a club that pays him a salary as we clearly do not want to (correctly) keep him on, everyone needs to make a living.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Good fucking riddance.
I hope to fuck he never comes back.

Bastard dwarf.

[Steve R]

Maybe Warnock is just being realistic. 30 is too young to retire.

He can either demonstrate that he can still be of value somewhere or most likely join the number 'names' that appear in the free agent list in 9 months time.

Rich pickings for average performers are a lot harder to come by nowadays.

A bit of credit should go to Lambert for hoofing non-contributors out of the comfort zone. I hope it has the same effect on Lambert.

[London Villan]

Hope is Mrs is now happy...

I not sure what game it was last season when he scored an own goal, it just about summed up the position of the club.  Be interesting to hear why he rubbed various managers up the wrong way.

[Legion]

v QPR. Great header.