Stephen Warnock - loaned to Bolton Wanderers (reply #231)

[pauliewalnuts]

Baker did well today, more solid than Warnock has been in years.

[tarzansbrother]

Warnock is shit. Never again

[olaftab]

I wonder if it's a mistake to freeze Warnock out before we've adequately strengthened there as we are still very light at left back.

No you have to burn the leaky boat and build a new one otherwise you sink. (don't know why I came up with this but there you go!)

[Toronto Villa]

Baker did well today, more solid than Warnock has been in years.

It's massively clutching at straws to think that Warnock would have made a difference yesterday. Baker is a very competent young player. I didn't think we were really troubled defensively. Like last season we had little ability to take shots and supply Bent. Warnock's time is done.

[OCD]

Warnock wouldn't have coped with Vaz Te and he's been a one-man walking disaster area for some time. There were a couple of defeats last season which were down to him passing to one of the opposition when he was last man.

[ozzjim]

The Mirror are suggesting we are offering him back to Blackburn plus a bit of money for Olsson - I would be happy with that, think he is a super player.

[curiousorange]

The Mirror are suggesting we are offering him back to Blackburn plus a bit of money for Olsson - I would be happy with that, think he is a super player.

I'd be happy replacing him with a player who can keep the ball in play. 3 times against Forest, Warnock let it bounce over his knee into the dugout.

[PaulTheVillan]

Olsson would be a good option for Lambert, due to the fact he wants his fullbacks to bomb forward if we play narrow.

[pedro25]

Did he score the class acrobatic volley when we beat them 6-4?

[nick harper]

I don't think I've ever seen a player lose so much belief and confidence as Warnock. He was a good full back and part of a very decent defence but he now looks like he has lost the will to turn things round for himself.

Always thought he looked better in midfield and he put in a few decent performances during those desperate few games last season. In fact, he would have been a hero if we hadn't thrown away the lead v Bolton - small margins at times.

Anyway, a move looks best for him now and I wish him the best of luck.

[Steve R]

I have never seen anything special about him as a full back. The 'great' defence we had owed  much to Ashley Young becoming the best defensive left winger in the league.

[pauliewalnuts]

Ashley was definitely the hardest working winger in the league, people often forget how much work he'd put in, helping out the full back.

[Percy McCarthy]

Spot on both about AY's work rate.

[Concrete John]

Ash did help out his LB quite a lot, plus as he was our main threat teams often doubled up on him, meaning the left winger/midfield up against Warnock probably didn't attack as much as he would against some other sides.  But the fact remains Warnock started his Villa career very well for us, was rushed back from injury for the cup final, was then pretty much frozen out by Houllier and suffered as they all did under TSM.  Those may not be the best set of circumstances for the player, but he's been poor enough for long enough that I've lost patience and would gladly see the back of him.

[Rick_avfc]

If warnock isn't shifted by the time the window closes then I think he should be welcomed back to the 1st team squad but be utilised as a backup DCM as seeing him play there last season after his very poor performances at left back, he seemed like a different player with a bit more confidence and was putting himself about abit with winning headers and tackles.