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LupoldMox
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Police over reaction at end of today's game
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January 29, 2012, 10:39:13 PM »
Last year at Arsenal I posted a video of us having a great party under the stand at Arsenal. The video I took today was less fun. It shows how many members of Metropolitan Police's finest it takes to arrest a Villa fan for smoking. Massive over reaction from the authorities. They don't like being filmed, do they? I hope the guy got home alright.
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Ad@m
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Re: Police over reaction at end of today's game
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January 29, 2012, 10:43:27 PM »
I can see what you're trying to do but how much sympathy do you expect when you post a video of the police dealing with someone breaking the law?
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brian green
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Re: Police over reaction at end of today's game
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January 29, 2012, 10:47:17 PM »
The law Adam sates absolutely clearly in black and white that the police may only use PROPORTIONATE force to make an arrest. I hope you never find yourself in the position that young man was today. I don't suppose you will because obviously you never break any law.
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villajk
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Re: Police over reaction at end of today's game
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January 29, 2012, 10:47:40 PM »
Wouldn't some of those numerous stewards/police have been better deployed elsewhere.
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Risso
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Re: Police over reaction at end of today's game
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January 29, 2012, 10:49:38 PM »
There certainly seems to be a lot of police there, but it's hard to see what exactly is going on in the video. What force was used, and was it excessive?
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saunders_heroes
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Re: Police over reaction at end of today's game
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January 29, 2012, 10:50:58 PM »
What are the police accused of doing? Yes there seems to be a lot of them but they don't seem to be physically abusing him.
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LupoldMox
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January 29, 2012, 10:51:18 PM »
Smoking a cigarette may be breaking the law - but it doesn't warrant 10 coppers and 20 stewards piling in - they gave him a right pasting and there were little kids sitting nearby who were terrified.
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LupoldMox
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January 29, 2012, 10:55:12 PM »
The video only shows the aftermath - in the 2 or 3 minutes leading up to this it was pandemonium. All someone needed to do was say "you can't smoke in here - put it out".
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villajk
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Re: Police over reaction at end of today's game
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January 29, 2012, 10:58:32 PM »
Did this happen in block 20 and was that why it took so long to get out?
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brian green
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Re: Police over reaction at end of today's game
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January 29, 2012, 11:01:12 PM »
It only went calm like that when they saw we were filming them. They gave him a right pasting. He called to me. "I can't go with them they are all pulling me in different directions". It was absolutely disgraceful. I am not anti police I AM totally anti football fans being treated like scum with no rights or protection from those charged with upholding the law.
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brian green
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January 29, 2012, 11:02:19 PM »
Yes i was Block 20
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Greg N'Ash
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January 29, 2012, 11:02:40 PM »
to be fair smoking is now on a par with peadophillia with the PC brigade.Even the supermarkets have now boarded up the displays like they're selling hardcore porn or something. The guy was probably lucky he wasn't taken outside the ground and shot the way things are going.
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villajk
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January 29, 2012, 11:04:10 PM »
Looks like total overreaction. The guy was wrong but no need for that and the potential danger it caused to others.
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Dave Clark Five
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Re: Police over reaction at end of today's game
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January 29, 2012, 11:05:26 PM »
If smoking in the ground is such a big deal, why don't they act consistently? They know that people smoke in the bogs and do nothing about it. Then they charge in like lunatics on this occasion.
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TimTheVillain
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Re: Police over reaction at end of today's game
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January 29, 2012, 11:10:56 PM »
Give a 'man' a uniform ...
The word 'PROPORTIONATE' would be lost on them Brian, 'PROPORTIONATE' is probably 6 coppers holding him down , 4 frisking him for offensive 'weapons' - cigarettes in this case - and another 6 beating him to a pulp for offending a Stadium Rule.
Mad days.
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