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Author Topic: Cuellar-Why are we not keeping him?  (Read 15521 times)

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Re: Cuellar-Why are we not keeping him?
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2012, 06:17:48 PM »
Where has it been written or confirmed that we are looking at selling him?
It seems to be more a case of letting his contract run out as no-one has mentioned extending it or persuading him to renew.

Offline Hoppo

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Re: Cuellar-Why are we not keeping him?
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2012, 06:28:33 PM »
King Carlos will be off along with Guzan Beye and Heskey which equates to around 140k a week in wages. Have I missed anyone? So are people saying that 2/3 signings for say 20mill (Downing money) but limited to say 40k a week each? This in my mind would be how the board are thinking. I actually believe Bent (who was brought a year ago today) was only bought because Randy knew Young and Downing were off.

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Re: Cuellar-Why are we not keeping him?
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2012, 07:01:06 PM »
I'd keep him, he's a decent defender and a replacement will cost us money we don't have.

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Re: Cuellar-Why are we not keeping him?
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2012, 07:02:04 PM »
I'd keep him, he's a decent defender and a replacement will cost us money we don't have.

I'd also play him ahead of Hutton (fitness permitting).

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Re: Cuellar-Why are we not keeping him?
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2012, 07:21:50 PM »
I'd keep him, he's a decent defender and a replacement will cost us money we don't have.

I'd also play him ahead of Hutton (fitness permitting).


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Re: Cuellar-Why are we not keeping him?
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2012, 07:31:46 PM »


How much did the messiah pay for him again?

Wasn't it something like £7.8 million?  I like Carlos, but if you're going to spend that on a defender, at least play him and in his proper position.

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Re: Cuellar-Why are we not keeping him?
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2012, 08:42:32 PM »
Money. That's why he is going. Not having to pay up contracts etc. Dave W made a point when he said he takes sitting on the bench too lightly. I like the man but he is the same old average defender that we could replace for less money.

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Re: Cuellar-Why are we not keeping him?
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2012, 08:53:22 PM »
Dave W made a point when he said he takes sitting on the bench too lightly
What should he be doing instead?

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Re: Cuellar-Why are we not keeping him?
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2012, 08:56:44 PM »
Guess Cuellar is on a fair old wage for someone who isn't a regular first teamer too - we have a few of those.

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Re: Cuellar-Why are we not keeping him?
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2012, 09:10:57 PM »
Never rated him as a fullback and always felt that he held us back from moving up to the next level when we were top 6.  Although playing him at fullback strengthened the defence but you should be looking to improve the two central players not have to supplement them with a third.  Chris Smith was right in his point about the goal conceded against Swansea.  People blamed Guzan for his poor distribution but the Swansea player that picked the ball up just waltzed past Cuellar.

At centre of defence I do not think he is good enough in the air to replace Dunne or Collins.  However, if he played alongside a dominant central defender e.g. Samba I think it would be a good player.

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Re: Cuellar-Why are we not keeping him?
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2012, 09:37:49 PM »
How many full and part time managers have believed that he is not good enough to start at centre back?  His technique on the ball doesn't allow him to play in the full back role in modern football. 

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Re: Cuellar-Why are we not keeping him?
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2012, 09:43:11 PM »
When Cuellar played we had thread stating he couldn't pass water and wasn't great. A season or so later with barely no playing time he is now the missing link despite MON, KMc, GH, GMc and now AMc all opting for others in his position. Funny old gam isn' it?

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Re: Cuellar-Why are we not keeping him?
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2012, 09:44:29 PM »
When Cuellar played we had thread stating he couldn't pass water and wasn't great. A season or so later with barely no playing time he is now the missing link despite MON, KMc, GH, GMc and now AMc all opting for others in his position. Funny old gam isn' it?

It's an unbreakable rule of football supporting that every struggling team has a player not getting picked who would turn them into worldbeaters if he could only get a game.

Offline nigel

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Re: Cuellar-Why are we not keeping him?
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2012, 08:30:42 AM »
Carlos Cuellar - Why ?
Add it to the previous questions of Luke Young - Why ? or Gary Cahill - Why ?
Luke wanted to go back to London.
Gary wanted 1st team football. MO'N had just bought in experienced centre backs in Dunne and Collins so his chances were limited.
Personally I'd have given Cahill and Rigewell a crack, they'd come through the system together and had a great understanding.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but, I think maybe MO'N should have gone for a transitional season and given some of these lads a go.
But, maybe he realised that many of the fans wouldn't accept that!!

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Re: Cuellar-Why are we not keeping him?
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2012, 08:45:01 AM »
Carlos Cuellar - Why ?
Add it to the previous questions of Luke Young - Why ? or Gary Cahill - Why ?
Gary wanted 1st team football. MO'N had just bought in experienced centre backs in Dunne and Collins so his chances were limited.
Knight and Davies

 


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