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Author Topic: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward  (Read 98697 times)

Offline Hoppo

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #315 on: January 20, 2012, 04:28:17 PM »
Ok 86/87 was abit dramatic but id rather have Bernie Gallagher than Stephen Warnock..

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #316 on: January 20, 2012, 11:23:17 PM »
which players are against Alex DC5?
Give me a couple of days and I will confirm it Hoppo.

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #317 on: January 20, 2012, 11:28:46 PM »
The thing is Monty, you say you are giving him a chance but your every comment belies that. You made up your mind the second he was appointed and haven't approached it with the open mind required to truly give the msn a chance. You don't aknowledge the improvement in performances, you don't acknowledge he's got more out of certain individuals than Houllier did and while you accept that he took over in difficult circumstances you give no leeway because of it.

I pointed out the Everton game as it was such an obvious contradiction to the article, there are plenty more. Our problem is inconsistency, we are capable of good football but we're equally capable of appalling individual errors which often undo all of the other good work and undermine our already fragile confidence further.

And "nihilistic", are you sure?

Everybody expecting Villa to play rubbish football, struggle to score goals, and hang around lower mid-table under McLeish have been proven completely right.  Anybody expecting things to get significantly better under the present set up are fooling themselves.

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #318 on: January 20, 2012, 11:39:33 PM »
The thing is Monty, you say you are giving him a chance but your every comment belies that. You made up your mind the second he was appointed and haven't approached it with the open mind required to truly give the msn a chance. You don't aknowledge the improvement in performances, you don't acknowledge he's got more out of certain individuals than Houllier did and while you accept that he took over in difficult circumstances you give no leeway because of it.

I pointed out the Everton game as it was such an obvious contradiction to the article, there are plenty more. Our problem is inconsistency, we are capable of good football but we're equally capable of appalling individual errors which often undo all of the other good work and undermine our already fragile confidence further.

And "nihilistic", are you sure?

Everybody expecting Villa to play rubbish football, struggle to score goals, and hang around lower mid-table under McLeish have been proven completely right.  Anybody expecting things to get significantly better under the present set up are fooling themselves.
Anybody who is not prepared to accept McLeish if he brings success should fuck off now as they are destabilising the club. Not suggesting you are but I thought it worth mentioning.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2012, 11:41:57 PM by dave clark five »

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #319 on: January 20, 2012, 11:40:32 PM »
Ok 86/87 was abit dramatic but id rather have Bernie Gallagher than Stephen Warnock..

No chance. Gallagher was the worst fullback I ever saw in a Villa shirt. Warnock's nowhere near as bad.

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #320 on: January 20, 2012, 11:56:52 PM »
McLeish is getting it in the neck but he really isn't the whole problem, he's just an easy target.

Summed up in a few words. Bang on!

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #321 on: January 21, 2012, 12:36:19 AM »
The thing is Monty, you say you are giving him a chance but your every comment belies that. You made up your mind the second he was appointed and haven't approached it with the open mind required to truly give the msn a chance. You don't aknowledge the improvement in performances, you don't acknowledge he's got more out of certain individuals than Houllier did and while you accept that he took over in difficult circumstances you give no leeway because of it.

I pointed out the Everton game as it was such an obvious contradiction to the article, there are plenty more. Our problem is inconsistency, we are capable of good football but we're equally capable of appalling individual errors which often undo all of the other good work and undermine our already fragile confidence further.

And "nihilistic", are you sure?

Everybody expecting Villa to play rubbish football, struggle to score goals, and hang around lower mid-table under McLeish have been proven completely right.  Anybody expecting things to get significantly better under the present set up are fooling themselves.
Anybody who is not prepared to accept McLeish if he brings success should fuck off now as they are destabilising the club. Not suggesting you are but I thought it worth mentioning.

"If he brings success".   That has to be considered unlikely doesn't it?  Even if he was a decent manager, he's working for Lerner, so taking the two parties and their relative recent performances into consideration, I'd have to conclude that there's more chance of me bringing home Megan Fox.  So, it'd be lovely if Lerner did bring success, but wishful thinking isn't going to make it happen.

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #322 on: January 21, 2012, 10:47:51 AM »
The thing is Monty, you say you are giving him a chance but your every comment belies that. You made up your mind the second he was appointed and haven't approached it with the open mind required to truly give the msn a chance. You don't aknowledge the improvement in performances, you don't acknowledge he's got more out of certain individuals than Houllier did and while you accept that he took over in difficult circumstances you give no leeway because of it.

I pointed out the Everton game as it was such an obvious contradiction to the article, there are plenty more. Our problem is inconsistency, we are capable of good football but we're equally capable of appalling individual errors which often undo all of the other good work and undermine our already fragile confidence further.

And "nihilistic", are you sure?

Everybody expecting Villa to play rubbish football, struggle to score goals, and hang around lower mid-table under McLeish have been proven completely right.  Anybody expecting things to get significantly better under the present set up are fooling themselves.
Anybody who is not prepared to accept McLeish if he brings success should fuck off now as they are destabilising the club. Not suggesting you are but I thought it worth mentioning.

"If he brings success".   That has to be considered unlikely doesn't it?  Even if he was a decent manager, he's working for Lerner, so taking the two parties and their relative recent performances into consideration, I'd have to conclude that there's more chance of me bringing home Megan Fox.  So, it'd be lovely if Lerner did bring success, but wishful thinking isn't going to make it happen.


Risso is right,      he's got no chance of taking Megan Fox home

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #323 on: January 21, 2012, 11:11:04 AM »
The thing is Monty, you say you are giving him a chance but your every comment belies that. You made up your mind the second he was appointed and haven't approached it with the open mind required to truly give the msn a chance. You don't aknowledge the improvement in performances, you don't acknowledge he's got more out of certain individuals than Houllier did and while you accept that he took over in difficult circumstances you give no leeway because of it.

I pointed out the Everton game as it was such an obvious contradiction to the article, there are plenty more. Our problem is inconsistency, we are capable of good football but we're equally capable of appalling individual errors which often undo all of the other good work and undermine our already fragile confidence further.

And "nihilistic", are you sure?

Everybody expecting Villa to play rubbish football, struggle to score goals, and hang around lower mid-table under McLeish have been proven completely right.  Anybody expecting things to get significantly better under the present set up are fooling themselves.
Anybody who is not prepared to accept McLeish if he brings success should fuck off now as they are destabilising the club. Not suggesting you are but I thought it worth mentioning.

"If he brings success".   That has to be considered unlikely doesn't it?  Even if he was a decent manager, he's working for Lerner, so taking the two parties and their relative recent performances into consideration, I'd have to conclude that there's more chance of me bringing home Megan Fox.  So, it'd be lovely if Lerner did bring success, but wishful thinking isn't going to make it happen.


Risso is right,      he's got no chance of taking Megan Fox home

Actually, I met him in a quaint little pub in Ramsey last night, and one thing led to another and he took me home for a right good seeing to.  He was a beast.

Offline Risso

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #324 on: January 21, 2012, 11:12:08 AM »
I told you to keep that quiet.

Offline James

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #325 on: January 21, 2012, 08:50:36 PM »
 ;D


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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #326 on: January 21, 2012, 08:54:25 PM »
The thing is Monty, you say you are giving him a chance but your every comment belies that. You made up your mind the second he was appointed and haven't approached it with the open mind required to truly give the msn a chance. You don't aknowledge the improvement in performances, you don't acknowledge he's got more out of certain individuals than Houllier did and while you accept that he took over in difficult circumstances you give no leeway because of it.

I pointed out the Everton game as it was such an obvious contradiction to the article, there are plenty more. Our problem is inconsistency, we are capable of good football but we're equally capable of appalling individual errors which often undo all of the other good work and undermine our already fragile confidence further.

And "nihilistic", are you sure?

Everybody expecting Villa to play rubbish football, struggle to score goals, and hang around lower mid-table under McLeish have been proven completely right.  Anybody expecting things to get significantly better under the present set up are fooling themselves.
Anybody who is not prepared to accept McLeish if he brings success should fuck off now as they are destabilising the club. Not suggesting you are but I thought it worth mentioning.

"If he brings success".   That has to be considered unlikely doesn't it?  Even if he was a decent manager, he's working for Lerner, so taking the two parties and their relative recent performances into consideration, I'd have to conclude that there's more chance of me bringing home Megan Fox.  So, it'd be lovely if Lerner did bring success, but wishful thinking isn't going to make it happen.


Risso is right,      he's got no chance of taking Megan Fox home

Actually, I met him in a quaint little pub in Ramsey last night, and one thing led to another and he took me home for a right good seeing to.  He was a beast.

He's the Villa Werewolf.

I knew it.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #327 on: January 21, 2012, 09:06:12 PM »
Tbf most of our games this season have been won by individual brilliance....Gabby at home to Wigan, Alrighton at Bolton, Ireland at Chelsea and Keane in the second half today. I'd still say McLeish's poor tactics have contributed to us not winning more games this season.

That said it was a brave call to take off Gaby and bring on Warnock but one McLeish got bang on so well done to him for that.

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #328 on: January 22, 2012, 10:28:29 AM »
Tbf most of our games this season have been won by individual brilliance....Gabby at home to Wigan, Alrighton at Bolton, Ireland at Chelsea and Keane in the second half today. I'd still say McLeish's poor tactics have contributed to us not winning more games this season.

That said it was a brave call to take off Gaby and bring on Warnock but one McLeish got bang on so well done to him for that.

Could be a good summary of him compared to Houllier: he's better at getting the goods out of the type of people we have at the club, but worse tactically.

Offline Eigentor

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #329 on: January 22, 2012, 10:47:43 AM »
Could be a good summary of him compared to Houllier: he's better at getting the goods out of the type of people we have at the club, but worse tactically.

Tend to agree. Even though I think he's the better manager of the two; we would probably have struggled even more with Houllier in charge. The big change since last season is the loss of Young, Downing, NRC and maybe even Kyle Walker. I struggle to believe that GH would have gotten as much out of Ireland and Gabby as McLeish have.

 


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