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Author Topic: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward  (Read 98694 times)

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #286 on: January 19, 2012, 06:01:24 PM »
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/1009954/dynamism-lacking-in-alex-mcleish-masterplan?cc=5739

Hard to disagree with this analysis.

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An unwillingness to risk defeat in order to pursue victory; a safety-first ethos denying of survival.

About sums it up for me.

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #287 on: January 19, 2012, 06:24:42 PM »
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/1009954/dynamism-lacking-in-alex-mcleish-masterplan?cc=5739

Hard to disagree with this analysis.

Exactly.  We didn't lose the Swansea game because of defensive errors although they didn't help - we conceded two against Norwich and still won the game. 

We lost against Swansea because we had one shot on target.  We picked up one point against Swansea in two games.  No goals in 180 minutes.  We've now scored two goals at home since that Norwich game.  The parallels with the style he played at Blues are clear to see.

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #288 on: January 19, 2012, 11:41:10 PM »
What an excellent article, its a bit leopards and spots, He has not shown that he can change or even knows how to change.

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #289 on: January 19, 2012, 11:54:39 PM »
That article is spot on.

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #290 on: January 19, 2012, 11:55:38 PM »
Scarily good article. Was it even written by a Villa fan? If not, that's some impressive third-party knowledge..

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #291 on: January 19, 2012, 11:56:23 PM »
What a pity that so many have chosen to put the boot into our manager. It is support that we need not all you lot huddling together for your own warmth and self security.
I couldn't care less about that newspaper article. The writer has not put a penny into our coffers, but is happy to accept our hospitality. His opinion is only offered to line his own pocket.
Too many people have now got carried away by all this ill feeling. It is a lynch mob or a collection of vultures.
What has happened to our spirit?

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #292 on: January 20, 2012, 12:03:21 AM »
What a pity that so many have chosen to put the boot into our manager. It is support that we need not all you lot huddling together for your own warmth and self security.
I couldn't care less about that newspaper article. The writer has not put a penny into our coffers, but is happy to accept our hospitality. His opinion is only offered to line his own pocket.
Too many people have now got carried away by all this ill feeling. It is a lynch mob or a collection of vultures.
What has happened to our spirit?

Sorry DC5, I'd love to be positive but I don't see how it's possible. Why should I get behind a manager I don't think is right for the club? The same argument applied to political leaders and countries is one used by dictators and is famously flimsy. Blind loyalty gets nobody anywhere.

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #293 on: January 20, 2012, 12:12:39 AM »
What a pity that so many have chosen to put the boot into our manager. It is support that we need not all you lot huddling together for your own warmth and self security.
I couldn't care less about that newspaper article. The writer has not put a penny into our coffers, but is happy to accept our hospitality. His opinion is only offered to line his own pocket.
Too many people have now got carried away by all this ill feeling. It is a lynch mob or a collection of vultures.
What has happened to our spirit?

Sorry DC5, I'd love to be positive but I don't see how it's possible. Why should I get behind a manager I don't think is right for the club? The same argument applied to political leaders and countries is one used by dictators and is famously flimsy. Blind loyalty gets nobody anywhere.

It is not blind loyalty. Nobody is giving the bloke a chance. There is no support from his employers and an evil undercurrent containing 'supporters' and a couple of players. Comparing the manager to a dictator is a poor analogy. For those who tell me to 'change the record', I have had enough of those who repeatedly tell me about McLeish's relegations but conveniently forget Blues' League Cup win.
Delusions of grandeur applies here. Our owners will not put money in. They let PD waste club money. They must stump up now. It is grossly unfair what they are doing. Can't remember any of Doug's board disappearing.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2012, 12:14:51 AM by dave clark five »

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #294 on: January 20, 2012, 01:39:17 AM »
They let PD waste club money.

Probably a stupid question, but who's PD?

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #295 on: January 20, 2012, 08:37:16 AM »
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/1009954/dynamism-lacking-in-alex-mcleish-masterplan?cc=5739

Hard to disagree with this analysis.

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An unwillingness to risk defeat in order to pursue victory; a safety-first ethos denying of survival.

About sums it up for me.

So what happened in the last game we played? As we so often, people over emphasis the evidence that supports their stance and ignore the stuff that contradicts it.

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #296 on: January 20, 2012, 08:45:13 AM »
They let PD waste club money.

Probably a stupid question, but who's PD?

It's his name for O'Neill. He takes delight in saying it so I'm sure he'll come to tell you what it stands for.

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #297 on: January 20, 2012, 08:50:04 AM »
They let PD waste club money.

Probably a stupid question, but who's PD?

It's his name for O'Neill. He takes delight in saying it so I'm sure he'll come to tell you what it stands for.

Puff Daddy?

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #298 on: January 20, 2012, 08:54:30 AM »
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/1009954/dynamism-lacking-in-alex-mcleish-masterplan?cc=5739

Hard to disagree with this analysis.

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An unwillingness to risk defeat in order to pursue victory; a safety-first ethos denying of survival.

About sums it up for me.

So what happened in the last game we played? As we so often, people over emphasis the evidence that supports their stance and ignore the stuff that contradicts it.

True. Human Nature. However, I think Villa fans have given him a chance and there has been no substantial McLeish OUT chanting. No Banners. No demo except for poor old Dazzy, on his own.

The analysis with undeniable statistics is correct and represents the general feeling at Villa Park, other football fans and increasingly the pundits. The only issue from the fans perspective is whether to ignore the dire football and support the team until hoarse ,  or demand that he is fired via protest,  or shrug shoulders in impotant, apathetic resignation.

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Re: McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward
« Reply #299 on: January 20, 2012, 09:10:53 AM »
What a pity that so many have chosen to put the boot into our manager. It is support that we need not all you lot huddling together for your own warmth and self security.
I couldn't care less about that newspaper article. The writer has not put a penny into our coffers, but is happy to accept our hospitality. His opinion is only offered to line his own pocket.
Too many people have now got carried away by all this ill feeling. It is a lynch mob or a collection of vultures.
What has happened to our spirit?

Sorry DC5, I'd love to be positive but I don't see how it's possible. Why should I get behind a manager I don't think is right for the club? The same argument applied to political leaders and countries is one used by dictators and is famously flimsy. Blind loyalty gets nobody anywhere.

That's an extremely fatuous analogy. You should give the mana chance, losing six first team regulars in the summer would have caused a problem for whoever got the job. We're trying to build a team on the go, the best we could ever hope for this season was mid table. 

 


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