McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward

[Legion]

You last paragraph is short, to the point and spot on. Expect a subtle re-write and subsequent post elsewhere.

[Simba]

Legion: You mean the rest was angry waffle and I need a subby? Don't answer that.

Anyway tx for back handed compliment, use it if you want. You think the same anyway. God I am angry.

[Legion]

Not in the slightest. It's not a back-handed compliment at all. Twitter only allows a few words, so I have chosen the best bit.

[Simba]

My agent will be in touch. Do lunch?

[Legion]

If you're paying.

[TheSandman]

Well said. As fans working to pay for the ticket, travel etc via a pay packet it becomes onerous when we want to support our club but feel disconnected from the players we actually pay. They have the Bentley at 25 we have a cold pie. If they look lazy then of course we will give them the verbal finger. Even if their shirt matches our scarf.

Football has changed since I watched in the early sixties and Vic Crowe ran a shop up the road in Castle Bromwich when he retired. (Aftab -next to the Farthings). I could relate to him as I could my own Dad, working for a living.

We are not fickle but simply pissed off. I mean give us some effort, passion, skill, tactical nous, heart FFS. Give us a chance to win something. Drunk driving a Range Rover at your age Bannan. Idiot. Wonder why the Holte is quiet? Watch the bloody match recordings. No passion on the pitch and you blame the fans for becoming trappist monks. Fans are bemused. Staggered at the arrogance.

 And if you own the Club or manage the team - do it properly. And remember who actually owns this proud history. Or admit you are not good enough and piss off. Thank you. Alex. Randy you have some good will but it is quickly running out deserved or not. Get back here and fix this crap.

Great post and points. Really strikes a chord with me.

[Simba]

If you're paying.
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Can tell you are Villa.

[Legion]

KFC or McDonald's?

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

As for next season - I think the Club are in for a shock. And let's just hope we are still in the Premier League.

From the things I've been hearing from the crowd around me you are correct. 

Two in this household who will not be renewing or even going to the QPR and Man City games due to the messing around with fixtures - to be blunt, going to Villa Park has become a chore. Poor results, poor performances, lack of passion from players, manager and fans.
Have I seen worse teams and performances?  Yes I have, but back in the day players were not picking up the obscene pay packets they do right now - Fuck `em !!!

Well said. As fans working to pay for the ticket, travel etc via a pay packet it becomes onerous when we want to support our club but feel disconnected from the players we actually pay. They have the Bentley at 25 we have a cold pie. If they look lazy then of course we will give them the verbal finger. Even if their shirt matches our scarf.

Football has changed since I watched in the early sixties and Vic Crowe ran a shop up the road in Castle Bromwich when he retired. (Aftab -next to the Farthings). I could relate to him as I could my own Dad, working for a living.

We are not fickle but simply pissed off. I mean give us some effort, passion, skill, tactical nous, heart FFS. Give us a chance to win something. Drunk driving a Range Rover at your age Bannan. Idiot. Wonder why the Holte is quiet? Watch the bloody match recordings. No passion on the pitch and you blame the fans for becoming trappist monks. Fans are bemused. Staggered at the arrogance.

 And if you own the Club or manage the team - do it properly. And remember who actually owns this proud history. Or admit you are not good enough and piss off. Thank you. Alex. Randy you have some good will but it is quickly running out deserved or not. Get back here and fix this crap.

All of this!
Brilliant post Simba!
When my uncle finished playing he ran a pub in Worcester for 25 years and when I visited there 10 years ago was still a legend! His two sons, Frank Jr and Amos (both Villa players!) ran newsagents and saved up to move to the south west for their retirement years. They were all my heroes. There are very few I admire in the current set up and my pride in my wonderful club remains pretty much rooted in its history.
Ever the optimist, I look forward to things getting better!!??!!

[Simba]

Bloody Hell. Amos who played for Kettering and the Villa. Didn't he pass on in about 2005? He played ( MUCH before my time) for about, what twenty years for Villa? Thirties? You really are Franks Uncle. Thought your name was a joke. respek

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Bloody Hell. Amos who played for Kettering and the Villa. Didn't he pass on in about 2005? He played ( MUCH before my time) for about, what twenty years for Villa? Thirties? You really are Franks Uncle. Thought your name was a joke. respek

Those are the guys!
Between them they also played for Sheff Wed and the Baggies but the family have forgiven them for their sins. Uncle was skipper when we got beat by Newcastle in the '24 FA Cup Final and captained England the following week! There was a smashing photo in The Grosvenor pub which Uncle ran (in St John's, Worcester) welcoming the boys to the club when they signed on. I need to go look, see if it's still there!
 

[JUAN PABLO]

Well said. As fans working to pay for the ticket, travel etc via a pay packet it becomes onerous when we want to support our club but feel disconnected from the players we actually pay. They have the Bentley at 25 we have a cold pie. If they look lazy then of course we will give them the verbal finger. Even if their shirt matches our scarf.

Football has changed since I watched in the early sixties and Vic Crowe ran a shop up the road in Castle Bromwich when he retired. (Aftab -next to the Farthings). I could relate to him as I could my own Dad, working for a living.

We are not fickle but simply pissed off. I mean give us some effort, passion, skill, tactical nous, heart FFS. Give us a chance to win something. Drunk driving a Range Rover at your age Bannan. Idiot. Wonder why the Holte is quiet? Watch the bloody match recordings. No passion on the pitch and you blame the fans for becoming trappist monks. Fans are bemused. Staggered at the arrogance.

 And if you own the Club or manage the team - do it properly. And remember who actually owns this proud history. Or admit you are not good enough and piss off. Thank you. Alex. Randy you have some good will but it is quickly running out deserved or not. Get back here and fix this crap.

Great post and points. Really strikes a chord with me.

Just how I feel Simba .    so disillusioned with the Villa at the moment , its only the fans that keep me going .

[Simba]

I feel your well deserved pride. Sorry if my Villa History memory was not spot on. Amos struck a memory probably because of his unusual name and possibly mentioned by my Dad. Aston born. As was my GrandFather.

Can you scan/send the pic? Take your phone cam. Maybe my last paragraph as quoted will have additional weight as we attempt to reclaim this Club of ours. Anyway it is great memorabilia which we should all enjoy.

Tx so much for the personal History. Brilliant.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Will do what I can.
Not sure if the landlord, who was from Chester but very proud of the Frank Moss connection, is till in post.
Aston born myself as was my dad. His mum used to put up new players when they arrived at the Villa so the club connection is pretty long-standing. Brilliant that my nephew has just started taking his 8 year old! Bright future? I hope so!

[The_ads]

First post but have been reading for a number of years. Some posts on here really heartfelt and so true, what the fuck is going on? So depressing to watch this club i love implode, i can only imagine the board were on some mind bending drugs the day mccleish was appointed.