McLeish could be the manager to take this club forward

[Villanation]

Would you sacrifice Bent for say 18 mill though? Im not just saying it I really can see us getting proper dragged into a relegation battle.

Not 18ML but if someone came in with perhaps that kind of cash and a player we wanted and needed, go for it, and use the cash to get other players in.

We lose to Wolves the 2 teams below us are very close point wise, we drop to 15th/14th that relegation territory for me, anything can happen.

And anybody that watched the Swansea game today will have seen just how you can shape extremely ordinary players into a team and make them play out of there skin with the right guidance, superb performance.

If AM moulds Villa and motivates the lads half as good as that when we meet Arsenal in the cup, I'll be the first one on here to congratulate him for doing so.

[Villanation]

"We realise that our greatest asset is the people who work here.  Each one is absolutely fundamental to the company's continued success in providing superior customer service, day in, day out"  Charles Krulak, chairman and CEO of MBNA International Bank.

How times change!!!!!!!

The fact that MBNA are allegedly in big financial problems would probably go some way to explain why he's vanished of the scene.

[Legion]

Plus he's had a new initiative to lead.

[pauliewalnuts]

"We realise that our greatest asset is the people who work here.  Each one is absolutely fundamental to the company's continued success in providing superior customer service, day in, day out"  Charles Krulak, chairman and CEO of MBNA International Bank.

How times change!!!!!!!

The fact that MBNA are allegedly in big financial problems would probably go some way to explain why he's vanished of the scene.

He hasn't had anything to do with MBNA for several years now.

[Villanation]

"We realise that our greatest asset is the people who work here.  Each one is absolutely fundamental to the company's continued success in providing superior customer service, day in, day out"  Charles Krulak, chairman and CEO of MBNA International Bank.

How times change!!!!!!!

The fact that MBNA are allegedly in big financial problems would probably go some way to explain why he's vanished of the scene.

He hasn't had anything to do with MBNA for several years now.

Just as well then.

[Hoppo]

I maintain that only Wigan and Bolton are worse than us. Blackburn have balls something we have lacked for years! Sunderland Wolves and The Baggies will fight their way out of it. Fulham? abit like us soft as shit at the back. Any fan who thinks we couldnt end up in a load of shite is deluding themselves. Weve got a soft centre which is why our home form is so criminally bad.

[Chris Smith]

Or we've won 2 of our last 3 away games and not lost any of them.

It's the attempt to paint things as worse than they are to win an internet argument that is the most annoying thing about this site. To ignore anything that doesn't suit the McLeish is shit and everything is his fault stance. We've put in decent performances, we've defended well in some games, we've scored three goals at Chelsea and he's ad to deal with losing more than half of the first team from last season yet all we hear from certain sections, because they cannot allow anything to interfere with their absolute certainty, is that he got  Blues relegated.

[Legion]

Chris, just try and experience the vitriol on VT if you think it is bad on here.

[DB]

OK, let's look at Newcastle or Swansea - 2 teams IMO that have poorer squads than us, but they play better football, are picking up results against top opposition and are higher in the league.
AMC may be a slow burner, trying to get it right until it clicks, but his past record doesn't indicate so. I fear this is as good as it gets i.e. shit.

Spot on. Both represent both ends of the spectrum as where Villa could be. Good style of football without really taking the league by storm or good results playing much more direct football with a poor run of results thrown in. 

Both managers have been allowed to bring in the players they want, I doubt either would get much different from our present squad.

Disagree, our squad is much stonger on paper than Swansea and Newcastle. Ask Pardew if he got the palyers he wanted after the cash they got from Carroll. This season, I've lost count of people asking me why Villa are so shit with the players we have.....

[SheffieldVillain]

"We realise that our greatest asset is the people who work here.  Each one is absolutely fundamental to the company's continued success in providing superior customer service, day in, day out"  Charles Krulak, chairman and CEO of MBNA International Bank.

How times change!!!!!!!

The fact that MBNA are allegedly in big financial problems would probably go some way to explain why he's vanished of the scene.

He hasn't had anything to do with MBNA for several years now.

Just as well then.

So the latest way to get in some criticism of the club is that a man who no longer is connected with Villa, said years ago of a company that is nothing to do with Villa that customer service was important. Wow, that really is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

[Hoppo]

I think the man is a legend for relegating them twice so that has no bearing on my view today! I maintain that unless the defence is sorted out were in the shit. I thought him being defence minded we would be ok with that side of things. I thought he would see through Collins and Dunne and maybe work on Warnock but instead we have four jokers every game! He must see it!

[Villanation]

I maintain that only Wigan and Bolton are worse than us. Blackburn have balls something we have lacked for years! Sunderland Wolves and The Baggies will fight their way out of it. Fulham? abit like us soft as shit at the back. Any fan who thinks we couldnt end up in a load of shite is deluding themselves. Weve got a soft centre which is why our home form is so criminally bad.

Think there is real danger of losing to Wolves, QPR are a strange one for me, the only chance they have is to buy there way out the problem, I would reiterate the comment made by Robbie Savage in that Villa could be the surprise package, I think there are 7 maybe 8 teams, Villa included that could get relegated, our problem is that we have a manger who's track record in the Prem shows that when he's in a tight corner and in difficulty simply doesn't know how to get out of it, in other words if we get down as low as 16th and below we have real problems IMO.

[SheffieldVillain]

OK, let's look at Newcastle or Swansea - 2 teams IMO that have poorer squads than us, but they play better football, are picking up results against top opposition and are higher in the league.
AMC may be a slow burner, trying to get it right until it clicks, but his past record doesn't indicate so. I fear this is as good as it gets i.e. shit.

Spot on. Both represent both ends of the spectrum as where Villa could be. Good style of football without really taking the league by storm or good results playing much more direct football with a poor run of results thrown in. 

Both managers have been allowed to bring in the players they want, I doubt either would get much different from our present squad.

 Ask Pardew if he got the palyers he wanted after the cash they got from Carroll.

To be fair, whoever wanted Ba and Cabaye for a combined 4 million quid or 1/8th of an Andy Carroll if you prefer, they didn't half do well with that one!

[AVGB1874]

The point being made was superior customer service.  Randy, the General and PF were all associated with MBNA.  If they were so commited to the customer then what's the change?  We are the customer and what is being served up is far from superior.  Not seeing our team win at home since November 5th is disgraceful!!!!  The big Eck states: " we have played three of the elite clubs"  Well big Eck we are an elite club not some two bob club from Small Heath!
There are three constants in life....death, change and taxes.  It is certainly taxing to watch our great club under this idiot.  If Randy and PF don't change it will be the death of our great club as a force in Premier League football.

[Chris Smith]

OK, let's look at Newcastle or Swansea - 2 teams IMO that have poorer squads than us, but they play better football, are picking up results against top opposition and are higher in the league.
AMC may be a slow burner, trying to get it right until it clicks, but his past record doesn't indicate so. I fear this is as good as it gets i.e. shit.

Spot on. Both represent both ends of the spectrum as where Villa could be. Good style of football without really taking the league by storm or good results playing much more direct football with a poor run of results thrown in. 

Both managers have been allowed to bring in the players they want, I doubt either would get much different from our present squad.

Disagree, our squad is much stonger on paper than Swansea and Newcastle. Ask Pardew if he got the palyers he wanted after the cash they got from Carroll. This season, I've lost count of people asking me why Villa are so shit with the players we have.....

I disagree, we're reliant on kids, have no balance to the squad and have little strength in depth. We're in the position of trying to make a team out of a collection of individuals who were not bought to a specific plan.