Aston Villa v Everton Post-Match Thread

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

I think we should've won that. I thought we played very, very well after we scored the goal. Some of the passing and movement they began to show with a little bit of confidence was great to watch.

And then we let the goal in and in went back to normal. First half was very bad.

It amazes me how much people moan and complain by shouting as loud as possible when someone does something shit, but when we had that great period after scoring a goal, nobody is shouting encouragement or positive things. When the goal goes in, the same people pipe up again shouting about people making mistakes.

In our good spell, even Warnock (who was shit for the other 70 minutes) played well and contributed to the team, but did he even get a clap or round of applause? No.

Confidence is a big issue. Robbie Keane obviously had it if you saw the way he was running around and asking for the ball.

Stephen Ireland. Finally showing he can be a good player. He actually (after avoiding Fellani as much as posible) even put in a defensive shift today. If he could be trusted to put the effort in regularly, he could easily play centre-midfield, which would help us make our game much quicker. Someone in the middle of the park who can make things happen. However, if he chooses to go missing, which he's done far, far more than not since he's been in the club, then it makes us more vunerable. If he did try, I think Ireland and Clark would be a good partnership, and allows two centre-forwards and two wide men.

[wombat]

The first 45 minutes was bloody absymal and that Warnock header that Given saved was like watching a car crash. But i've come to accept that it's what i'm going to see. 31,853. I predict a cold Wednesday night in Feb against QPR could be lower than 30K if we have a couple of bad results in the next 2 weeks. Austerity plays a part, but turgid 'entertainment' is another factor that cannot be ignored.

There is no movement off the ball, we play at such a pedestrian pace and seemingly have no real idea about how we are going to play. It's depressing to watch. I found my mind drifting to other matters and nowhere near focused on what I had paid to watch. Frankly at times I was bored, cold, tired and pissed off.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Overall too much of a boring non event for even a good boo at the full time whistle.

[caster troy]

Better than we were against Swansea but still not good enough to beat a poor Everton side when really we should have performed like caged animals after four consecutive home defeats.

It's all exactly as predicted when McLeish was appointed, poor football, poor results, poor attendances. 31k there today and quite a few won't be back in a hurry. Is that two goals in 5 home games? One point gained? Absolutely shocking.

Even if we stave off relegation there is no way I can sit through another season of this.

[SoccerHQ]

utter cock. How long has warnock got left on his contract. Hutton poor. Collins poor. Dunn is better than those 3 so keep him. 3 easy goals given away in the last 2 weeks. SHite shite shite. What is going on with the passing and movement?

Collins, Warnock and Dunne all have 18 months left on their contract, all should be moved on in the summer.

[olaftab]

Two dull teams play out a dull game

Two dull teams in decline play out a dull game

Two dull teams in decline managed by dull managers play out a dull draw.

[TheSandman]

At least my opinion on why we shouldn't have gone for Moyes has been vindicated. Football as dour as the man himself. A slightly better version of McLeish.

[Toronto Villa]

stole away from the shelves for a quick sarny. I hope everyone now sees what Houllier saw in our defence and Mr Warnock in particular. Houllier is very hands on as a coach and likely saw the first few training sessions and thought "you lot are fucking gash" and told them to their faces. How I wish Houllier's ticker never gave out on him because we'd be rid of that lot and we'd be playing much prettier football.

[swiss1968]

So predictable although when we scored i was foolishly led astray to the land of the "home win" they had 1 attack scored and that was it ,you sense we have the player's but it just ain't working,mcgoo factor for me .

[Steve kirk]

It will be very interesting to see the take up with season ticket renewals come next season, I feel sorry for the fans who watch us every other week at Villa park, a lot of people just wont renew and suffer another year of the Lerner/Mcleish regime and who can blame them.   

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Usual insipid performance.

We're going nowhere fast, thanks to a perfect storm of -

Disinterested, Incompetent owner
Piss poor Manager
Sub standard squad of players.

Anyway, scores on the doors for today.

Dopey looking bloke from Ballykissangel - 7

Just walked out of the Scott Arms pissed - 3
Chrome domed ginger freak in slippers - 4
Dunnedefending - 5
Stumpy Scouse dunderhead - 1

Barry Manilow - 3 (Should have been subbed at half time)
Better when he had the 80's highlights - 5
Gareth Barry with ringworm - 6
Foreign types with their hookah pipes say Way-ho, way-ho, wayyyyyy-ho - 8

Erdington Mastermind - 6
Get me the fuck out of this club - 6

[itbrvilla]

At least my opinion on why we shouldn't have gone for Moyes has been vindicated. Football as dour as the man himself. A slightly better version of McLeish.

Totally agree. Never understood the love for Moyes. Would rather have a bullet to the head than have him after McShite.

[pauliewalnuts]

Anyway, scores on the doors for today.

Dopey looking bloke from Ballykissangel - 7

Just walked out of the Scott Arms pissed - 3
Chrome domed ginger freak in slippers - 4
Dunnedefending - 5
Stumpy Scouse dunderhead - 1

Barry Manilow - 3 (Should have been subbed at half time)
Better when he had the 80's highlights - 5
Gareth Barry with ringworm - 6
Foreign types with their hookah pipes say Way-ho, way-ho, wayyyyyy-ho - 8

Erdington Mastermind - 6
Get me the fuck out of this club - 6

Excellent!

[garyshawsknee]

Usual insipid performance.

We're going nowhere fast, thanks to a perfect storm of -

Disinterested, Incompetent owner
Piss poor Manager
Sub standard squad of players.

Anyway, scores on the doors for today.

Dopey looking bloke from Ballykissangel - 7

Just walked out of the Scott Arms pissed - 3
Chrome domed ginger freak in slippers - 4
Dunnedefending - 5
Stumpy Scouse dunderhead - 1

Barry Manilow - 3 (Should have been subbed at half time)
Better when he had the 80's highlights - 5
Gareth Barry with ringworm - 6
Foreign types with their hookah pipes say Way-ho, way-ho, wayyyyyy-ho - 8

Erdington Mastermind - 6
Get me the fuck out of this club - 6

' Stumpy scouse dunderhead' cheered me up no end. Good work Rip.

[Steve kirk]

stole away from the shelves for a quick sarny. I hope everyone now sees what Houllier saw in our defence and Mr Warnock in particular. Houllier is very hands on as a coach and likely saw the first few training sessions and thought "you lot are fucking gash" and told them to their faces. How I wish Houllier's ticker never gave out on him because we'd be rid of that lot and we'd be playing much prettier football.

Well said, Houllier saw almost from the off that Warnock especially was a complete and utter liabilty and he was never near the first team again.Why does Alex persevere with him?